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Hi there,
On Sunday at 0130 I found this page and today, having completed my night shifts and rested sufficiently, am now registered and posting. If you read this I really thank you.For the last two years the idea that I’m a glorified slave of the new age has been nagging at me and the scales tipped two months ago when I simultaneously lost my car licence and received a letter concerning an imminent tax audit which has set me back 9K (basic rights such as claiming my required steel cap work boots were denied). That didn’t upset me so much as now after two months scraping by and studying my butt off looking for a way out I have hit a wall. I’ve realised I don’t know what to do with my new knowledge, which makes it worthless. I believe knowledge is only power when you use it to an healthy, positive advantage.
I live between Wollombi and Cessnock Lower Hunter NSW on a 804sqm 2/1 property recently valued at 230K (another valuation taking place today). I still owe 154K on a casual but constant income. I am having a rental appraisal done tomorrow, but I expect it to be around 240pw. With these in mind I expect my borrowing capacity will be around 300K. From my viewing point I can’t see much room to move and am considering buying again for extra land to house my horse (rather than pay extra each week to rent her facilities), and potentially build on later, and turn my current PPoR into an IP. I have only two loans. House and car. However, I feel the way things are set up my cash is tied down and moving ahead will be more arduous than perhaps it needs to be. I’m 32 and I feel completely useless and irrelevant at not being able to see a way out of this, but I have to find one as I refuse to live like this anymore.
Does anyone have any ideas as to the best step from here? I saw posts suggesting turning a current PPoR over to an interest only option which I didn’t understand entirely, but it sounded interesting and positive.
I thank you so sincerely for any time and suggestion you can possibly offer.Warmest regards,
Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Hi Jo
Two things stand out to me in terms of potential reduction in your overheads.
1. Is your car on a separate loan and if so, what interest rate are you paying? Perhaps refinancing the house to pull out funds to pay out the car loan might be appropriate (if the house loan interest rate is less than the interest rate you are paying for the car loan).
2. You have a horse. Those things cost a fortune to hang onto. How old is the horse? For instance, if it is getting on in its years and has a life expectancy of say 3 years, do you really want to buy land for it to live on if indeed you don’t intend to replace the horse?
If you have grand aspirations of moving forward financially, horse ownership is likely going to hold you back a lot, so that’s something worth pondering first I think.
Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
http://www.middletonbuyersadvocates.com.au
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Hey Jacqui,
Thank you so much for your reply.
Love the idea re loans. My car is with Toyota Finance on 11% with 15K remaining and my house is on 4.3%. That is a seriously unreal idea. Do I just go to my mortgage broker to refinance that?
Re Phoenix, I rescued her and gifted her to a religious organisation who wanted an horse to check their cows on their farm, but then I witnessed the grossest most wrenching killing of an animal you could imagine and I ripped her out of there. She’s a grand daughter of Sir Tristram I have discovered and was quite successful, but has endured a life of drugs, violence, starvation, and torment. Her name was Quadrille. She’s 15 and costs me about $60 per week. Last night after writing here a stranger pulled over on the side of the road and offered me 40 acres to graze her on as ‘luck’ would have it. I never intended to have an horse but it’s just not in me to abandon her to an uncertain fate. Sigh. But you’re right, I don’t intend to replace her so a whole property is a little extreme.
However, I’m going to get on the phone now and do the car straight away if it’s allowable.Jacqui you’re wonderful, thank you so so much.
Jo
Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Hi Jo
Yes assuming your mortgage broker his good at his/her job, and assuming there is some equity in your property (ie assuming the bank valuer puts figure on its value that is similar to what you believe the property is now worth), then the broker should be able to refinance the house to assist you in payout out the car loan.
Ask your broker to talk to you about :
1. the difference between Interest Only and Principal and Interest loans.
2. the difference between fixed rates and variable rates.
3. the availability and merits of offset accounts.The interest only will mean your repayments are less, but that you are not working on paying off the principal. This helps with your overall cashflow. Generally interest only loans will automatically become principal and interest after 5 years unless you “do something” to change that (such as refinance). An offset account is an account that is generally only available to sit against a variable rate loan, and however much money is in your offset account is the amount of money that is exempt from attracting mortgage interest (eg if your loan is $200k and in the offset you have $40k, then you would only be charged mortgage interest on the difference which is $160k. Offsets are a great facility being somewhere to park spare money and save your mortgage interest at the same time, while offering you the flexibility to pluck the money out of there at a moment’s notice if you wish to do something with it (such as spend it on a deposit on a subsequent property, or go on a cruise). However it is a dangerous facility for people that cannot control their spending and are prone to “treating themselves” all the time (eg cruise, or more new pairs of shoes than they really need etc etc).
Chat over all these things with your broker to understand their relevance to your circumstances, and indeed which mortgage products are available to you under your circumstances.
Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
http://www.middletonbuyersadvocates.com.au
Email Me | Phone MeVIC Buyers' Agents for investors, home buyers & SMSFs.
Hi Jacqui!
As it turns out he spoke to me about all of the above.
I have had two bank valuations done now and the rental appraisal came back this morning at 260-270pw. Depending who we go with I have at the least 76K in equity.
My broker is also a successful investor and specialises in working with other investors (I interviewed several to find exactly that as per Kiyosaki lol) and so we discussed three ways forward from here. Also he’s a financial planner and I poured out all my worries and ideas and also what you said earlier. My position is not as bad as I thought so long as we plan and structure correctly as per your email. I retrieve my licence in 2 and a half weeks and can then actively seeking out property. Trolling online seems to be almost a waste of time. Mostly finished products. I have also seen ‘we buy houses fast’ signs in my area, so whoever that is may have a suitable starter they want to palm off.
I just want to sort my finances first. Identify exactly what I can afford even in an interest rate hike and then I will know which angle to invest from. I think I started this whole thing from the wrong end.Thank you so much for triggering the path for me Jacqui.
If it’s ok I’d like to let you know what we come up with. Make sure it’s all super cool. This will take a couple of weeks due to my own constraints.
You’re a blessing. You really are.
My sincere thanks to you Jacqui.
Jo
Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
That’s it. One logic step at a time. And yes we’d love to hear how you go. Check back in and let us know. Chances are your situation will be similar to other people and this thread will become a useful resource for other people :)
Glad you feel you got the help you need and are on the right track :)
Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
http://www.middletonbuyersadvocates.com.au
Email Me | Phone MeVIC Buyers' Agents for investors, home buyers & SMSFs.
Thanks Jacqui,
I really did. You showed me I had options. Start with the small things. It’s not over. It can’t be if it hasn’t started. You gave me courage to ring my broker. They are super approachable, but I felt down on myself.
You’re a special person Jacqui, in case you weren’t sure :-).Jo x
Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
No worries. You said in your original post you weren’t using your new knowledge, but you are. All these topics all put together to achieve the outcome of reducing your overheads:
– Refinancing
– Equity Release
– Converting to interest only
– Usage of an offset account
– Debt consolidation to remove loans on higher interest rates
– Eliminating ideas from the strategy that do not take you forwardIt’s pretty tough to be a successful investor without a good grasp on how best to arrange finances and loans. You’re covering a lot of these topics now so that knowledge will solidify in your mind and be useful in the future when you’re ready for your next stage towards investing.
Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
http://www.middletonbuyersadvocates.com.au
Email Me | Phone MeVIC Buyers' Agents for investors, home buyers & SMSFs.
I didn’t realise that until I read this Jacqui.
Just because I’m not buying and selling does not mean I’m not using my knowledge or investing. Based on our chats, my conversations with my broker and all our grouped ideas, it seems up to 70% of successful investing would be correct planning and structuring, 20% would be sourcing the ‘deals’ and only that small remainder is actually making it happen. Focusing on the sourcing and the exchange first with only a loose grasp on that foundation would be potentially disastrous.I don’t feel nearly as daft or incompetent now that I see that. I now also don’t mind it taking extra time. It takes what it takes. I need to respect myself and all my efforts to obtain this knowledge, and the help of others, and use it all to its most careful advantage. Rushing is unnecessary and destructive in this profession. This has shown up a weakness of mine then – a propensity to rush. Now that I know it’s there I can monitor and control it.
Time and discipline. I need to position myself correctly for the win.
Thank you yet again Jacqui.
XxJo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Splendid. You’re “getting it”. If you can keep that focus of steel you can step closer and closer to your goals. Don’t let unnecessary noise distract you. Stick to facts and your knowledge and keep moving forward.
Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
http://www.middletonbuyersadvocates.com.au
Email Me | Phone MeVIC Buyers' Agents for investors, home buyers & SMSFs.
Hi Jacqui,
Hope you’re keeping well and that you receive this.
Update:
My PR has been refinanced with ANZ to include my car and tax debt. It is now 180K set up PI offset with 80K variable at 215pw. I didnt jump in interest only straight up. It settled last week. The day after I spent an entire 9 hours on the phone reviewing my insurances. In doing so I have saved myself 2246.64K for the coming year.
Basically my weeky expenses are now down 250. Spare cash is already mounting quickly in the account.
I now have a mortgage broker, accountant, and financial planner all in the property game and servicing investors. My FP is workjng on bring my 5+ super accounts into one SM – more savings.
This is a modest start I know, but I feel so proud, positive, and liberated.
All the hours and hard work I put in to gain the highest certification possible in my employment has also paid off and I now regularly bring in 100 per hour at the weekends to stash in that account ready for my first successful investment property to be.
I still have the horse I rescued. I have spent many hours learning about her condition. I have completely changed her diet and removed her shoes meaning her feet are no longer deformed and suffering from laminitis and she is now able to run normally barefoot on hard ground. The savings are over the top.
I will always keep her because she is the first horse toward realising my dream of animal rehabilitation. Off the track thoroughbreds specifically, and property investment is the vehicle I want to use to get there. I’ve been harbouring this dream for many years, but now I can see it being realised inside of ten.
I think of you often and the advice you gave me. I always smile and get a little teary. This is so important to me. You’ve helped me begin changing my life.
Thank you.
Much love,
JoJo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Hi Jo
Just letting you know that I read your posts and I’m glad everything is going well. Keep it up!
Hey thanks that’s kind of you.
Hope you have an amazing day.
:-)Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Love your story, Jo.
Thanks heaps :-)
Jo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Hi Jo,
All the hours and hard work I put in to gain the highest certification possible in my employment has also paid off and I now regularly bring in 100 per hour at the weekends to stash in that account ready for my first successful investment property to be.
I’m enjoying reading your updates Jo, and smiling as I read of the changes in you and your stuation in just a few short months. Awesome !!
Regards,
BennyHi Jo,
How are things going for you now? Interested folk would love to know…… ;)
Benny
Hey Benny,
Are you still there?
Thanks for your message, and I’ve kept it in my inbox all this time. I’ve been working on something, and wanted to save my reply for when I had something to show for it.I kept becoming distracted from the property path by something, and I’ll tell you what it is in a second.
But it made me think. What are my strengths? What are my limitations? I wrote down a list.If there’s something I can share with everyone right now it’s this:
No-matter how good you think something could be for your back pocket, or how many late night visions you have of yourself getting around looking like an undercover typhoon having just landed your 300th apartment property in the heart of you-choose-your-city to an Asian company from Italy that flew their ‘director’ in from Germany to shake hands with you personally whilst on a harbour cruise with some beautiful Latin dancers in your wake…it’s unlikely to happen if it’s not something you really care about.
And that’s what kept interrupting me Benny. Things I care about. I’m not passionate about money. Or property. I just see it’s value. I don’t want to be a fake version of me, and generate stand-in passion for something just because I can see it has value.
So, Benny, with my stashed cash I’ve gone and started a company, doing something I care about.
And yes, I still have my horse. And yes, she costs me money. But she’s also the inspiration behind what I’ve started. She’s my co-founder, my project manager, and my teacher. She keeps me honest.My business is called Real People Helping Real People.
If you’re curious go to http://www.realpeoplehelpingrealpeople.coThis is a new start-up so go gentle on me Benny :-) No doubt it will forever be a work in progress, but in it’s current state it is developing some great interest.
(I built the website myself. Very proud because up until now technology has NOT been my thing. I don’t even own a t.v.)Thank you for everything you’ve done for me Benny, for your support – checking in like that really made a difference to me. It was nice to know you cared.
I’m still staying subscribed because property is still an interest, and I like to keep abreast of things. And you’re nice people.Much love,
JoJo
Every form of refuge has its price.
Hi Jo,
Wow, that is a huge change in just a short time. You seem to have had an epiphany of some kind in the last year or so. Awesome. I wish you much luck with your venture. And yes, DO stay on here to keep us updated from time to time, won’t you?Prior to replying, I was searching the Internet for an article I had read about 15 years back. I wanted to link it as an “idea” for you regarding this comment of yours:-
And that’s what kept interrupting me Benny. Things I care about. I’m not passionate about money. Or property. I just see it’s value.
My thought was to prompt you in a direction that made so much sense to me once I had read Kiyosaki’s bestseller, “Rich Dad, Poor Dad”. And that particular story I was seeking was an example Kiyosaki used to show us HOW to buy a yacht !! He always maintained we should never say “No, I can’t afford <whatever>. Instead we should ask ourselves “HOW can I afford <whatever>?”
I didn’t find that link – but the nub of the story wnet something like this:-
He wanted to buy a yacht and it would have cost $50,000 in cash, or on terms something like $200 a week. He wanted the yacht, so had to come up with a way to have it. His answer was to use the $50k as a deposit on a positive geared investment property (a small block of flats?) and have it returning better than $200 a week in positive cashflow after all expenses.I think that story fits quite nicely with your comment about “I’m not passionate about property – I just see its value!” There is a lot of value in having your good financial decisions PAY for your next passionate enterprise, eh? And those same thoughts can be tweaked and expanded in so many ways too.
Steve’s books are also full of such worthwhile examples of “How things can work when we think differently”. Change your mindset and your world will change – actually Jo, it seems like this might have already happened in a major way for you. :)
Well done, and good luck with your venture.
Regards,
Benny
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