I've been thinking about investing in property for more than a year now and have now finally decided to embark on this jorney.
the problem is … Where do I start?
Have done some online research, watched a few property seminars on Youtube, have also registered for a free property seminar in early February (although after reading some posts on this forum, became a bit suspicions about it's real intent). During this this time discovered this website which has proven to be an immense source of valuable information. Thank you to all the contributors for taking the time to help people like me.
my current situation is as follows:
salary income 140k, wife:70k before tax. From this, we can manage to save 40-45k after tax per year. There are some potential bonuses at the end if the year (60-70k), but i would like to only bank on the known facts for now.
hold a ppr valued at about 580k with a mortgage of 370k on it.
savings: 25k
so ..where do I start?
Most people on this forum say 'start small'… But what is small? 200, 300, 400k?
Also, do you think that for a newbie like me it's worth using some buyer's agent?
i would also be keen to have a one hour consultation (paid if needed) with an expert, if someone can recommend one, it would be greatly appreciated (pm if the forum rules do not allow otherwise).
i live in Sydney (north shore… But anywhere is Sydney is fine from my end).
I see you have just joined up – welcome !! Your name is on the bottom of the screen, but don't worry – it will be gone pretty quick as more people join and nudge you out of the way.
Good work for getting some of the early work out of the way (seminars, books, etc). Don't worry, it gets exciting pretty quick.
Re your question "What is start small?" – I would say start with one property – don't try to buy four just because a lender will give you a million $$ Also, you might already be starting to get a feel for which branch of property investing takes your interest. Do you have a particular area that appeals? e.g. buy/hold, developing, buy/reno/sell, etc.
A smart move to have a sit-down with a Broker first. Those on here are well versed in this style of investing and likely have a bunch of properties of their own. Watch for the sigs that show their expertise. They'll probably be along soon to say g'day anyway.
First, get a feel for WHAT you want to do. Get your finance questions answered, and a plan for "the way forward". Then pick an area in which to invest (ask on here for what it is you seek, and see what replies you get). See, some areas are already moving, others are showing signs of moving. You might be wanting to "ride the wave", or maybe you just want to paddle your feet first. Buyers Agent? Could be – I'm pretty sure we have some of them on here too.
You appear to be starting out from a healthy base. Decide where you are going, and I'm sure you will be steaming along in double-quick time.
Benny
PS Re free seminars, most of them ARE worth attending (IMHO). I have attended several seminars over the years, and learned a lot, but also met some great people !! The networking is worth gold, even if the seminar was a bit ho-hum !! But be careful when a seminar leads on to a "Buy a property through us – and, by the way, how much Equity did you say you have in your PPOR?" If you get that question, walk away QUICKLY !!! They will be looking to sell you an over-priced piece of junk which will require equity from your PPOR to make it all work.
to add some further info to my initial post, I am looking at a more passive investment (at least for now). My job keeps me busy for 50+ hours per week and i don't think i will have much spare time for development/dividing. I am looking to leverage off the excess income and high tax.
i am 31 and plan to have the full time job for a while (i'm an accountant by the way , but in the insurance area)
with regards to WHERE … I don't have any preference but am still trying to understand how the interstate investment works. How can someone buy a property without ever seeing it ….
From the information you've provided, your in a great position to get started…
To answer a few of your questions;
As Benny has said, you need to decide on your method… Buy and hold, renovate, development etc. from your comment above, buy and hold or very basic Reno (paint and carpets) will probably suit you the best based on your time available.
in regards to seminars, I went to quite a few when I got started. Although they all provided 'some' useful information, the thing that frustrated me was there was never enough to really do anything with. The just scooted over the topic and at the end said for the in-depth explanation you'll need to attend our paid seminar. (But hey, those guys are looking to make an income and the seminars are really just their platform to present their product)
In regards to buyers agents, I think it depends on how much time you are willing to put into your own research and what areas you are looking to purchase in. I enjoy / have the time available to attend a couple opens each week in my chosen area (even when I'm not in a position to purchase I keep a very active eye on the market) so I am very confident in my area. Having said that, if I was to look in another state I would use a buyers agent. For the simple reason, I fail to see how you can truly understand a location (what is the good streets, what is the market doing) etc by jumping on a plane and attending half a dozen inspections organised by a selling agent.
My advice at this stage if I may offer it is to decide where you want to end up and structure things accordingly / build the required team around you from early on.
As an accountant, I sure you understand the need for structures and estate planning, so I won't comment too much there. There are several very good brokers on here (one has already commented) so a phone call with them will probably answer a bunch of questions for you. Being that you are based in Sydney, I will recommend Terryw as a point of contact. I met with Terry last week in person to look at my situation…
On the surface your borrowing capacity looks like it would be quite strong.
You've also got a bit of equity up your sleeve that you could access and use to invest.
All in all, work out where you want to achieve – then work out what needs to be done to reach that end goal.
If your time poor – perhaps consider using a buyers agent for your purchases. A good finance person will be hugely important – it also helps to have a good accountant on board.