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    Hi everyone, it's been a long time since I've been on here. I'm about to do sandwich lease options, and I have heard that it is illegal to pay bird dogs to bring me deals. Is it legal to reward a bird dog with, say a $500 gift card for referring a seller with an unadvertised property to me? I would give the gift card only if the seller agrees to the lease option.

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    I don't think it is the money that is the problem it is the acting as an agent without a licence

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    Well I will be doing a rent to own on any property that the bird dog brings me, and then selling on a rent to own, so I won't actually be buying the property myself at any time. Unlike installment contracts (wraps), I don't need a credit license to do rent to owns, and since I am not buying the properties, neither I, nor my bird dogs need a real estate agents license. All my bird dogs will do is let me know of someone who wants to sell their property – they don't do any research, or negotiations with the seller – I do that. I don't see what the problem is.

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    In QLD you doing the negotiations is sufficient to trigger the Real Estate Agent Licensing requirements

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    I am in Queensland, but I still don't see a problem. The negotiations I do with a seller revolves around the option fee, length of the lease, price of the property if I decide to buy (which I won't), how much the rent will be, etc. The negotiations do not involve me buying the property, just controlling it under a lease and an option to buy. I will then offer the property to someone else under a lease and an option to buy. If that person does want to buy, and there is only a 50% chance they will, they will exercise the option to buy directly from the seller, not from me.

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    If you have an option of the property then you will have an equitable interest in that property and could therefore probably be ok – but seek your own legal advice on this.

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    Suggest you run the scenario by the Govt Dept in Qld which issues RE licences and enforces breaches of the relevant laws since they'd be the ones bird-dogging you if you broke the law. They might give you the all clear or not.

    Good luck.

    Cheers

    thecrest

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