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  • Profile photo of TaprootTaproot
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    Hi everyone, Is there a way that i can find out the ownership details of a property for sale. Similar i guess to a company search that reveals directors names and other relevant info. ?

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    You can subscribe to RPdata (at a cost) to find out this information.

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    In most cases you can also purchase the information from your locale council as well

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    OK, thanks. I signed up to the website and tried to order a report, but not working at the moment due to site maintenance. Will try again another day. 

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    Thanks Nigel, I assume that is the council relevant to the property. Do Real Estate Agencies have to report the sale price of a property to the Government ? If yes, do you know what department and can that information be accessed. ? Peter

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    What happened is that prices go to places like RP data however agents do not have to report a sale price publicly.

    Try this site its free and provides most of the information, not owners but a lot of sale figures and brochures.

     http://house.ksou.cn/

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    Is that a US based site Nigel? Doesn't seem to work for me.

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    Not that I am aware. If I click it goes to the site

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    OK, went and had a look – thank you – and have also just checked out something similar that appears to be a little more comprehensive. http://www.onthehouse.com.au . I will try your suggestion re:the council direct, and let you know how i get on.Regards Peter  

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    Taproot- what is it you actually want to know and why?

    What state is it in. I have access to NSW, Queensland and SA.

    I can give you sales figures etc but I won't give out peoples names.

    PM me if you want the info.

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    Hi Rick, it worked OK for me, just click on the link in Nigel's post, type in say: "Townsville" – will bring up a list of suburb matches, then click on the relevant one say: "south townsville", then you should get a list of all the properties that have sold in that area and the prices that they sold for. For me I'm  just not sure how complete the list is though !

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    Hi Catalyst, as per my original question: I just want to know if it is at all possible to find out who owns a property ie: I don't have a particular property in mind. From a due diligence point of view, it's just another piece of info that would be handy to be able to access. IE. Who owns it, is a private or is a company ( If it's a company, I know how to find out who the directors are. ). Obviously the relevant council has the info, maybe some Govt dept in each state also has the info. I just want to know if and how that piece of information can be legally obtained. Census would have all that info, is it for sale, some marketing company might have it. If there is way to access the info – I just want to know how. I'm in WA by the way. PS. This question leads to others – Who owns it, how long have they owned it, how much did they pay for it. etc etc

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    Most Councils have an online mapping tool that you can subscribe to or sign up and pay a casual use with a credit card.

    Brisbane City Council for example uses eBimap.  Will cost you $30 for 24 hours use and not only can you find the owners name, the maps will tell you

    -zoning

    -location of fire hydrants/ sewers/ waterlines etc

    -easements

    -waterways

    -contours

    -protected trees and land clearing restrictions

    -rates costs

    -land value over time

    -previous transfers, purchase price and previous owners names

    Check them out

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    If you want to find out who owns a particular property go to the land titles website in the state of the property. Cost about $10

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    I was going to say the same as Terry a simple Title search will give you the same information even tell you who their mortgage is in favour of and the limit.

    Of course doesn't mean that the residential address or contact information is accurate.

    Cheers

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    There are a LOT more important things to know than the name of the person who owns the property.

    Agree that knowing how much it was purchased for, when and how long it's been on the market can be useful but not limiting to purchase.

    I'm hoping you're not one of those (likely) investors that do years of research and don't buy anything.

    I'd concentrate on finding a property you would buy Then do your DD on that.

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    Hi Terry, thank you very much for your answer, I've checked it out and it's a great resource. Not only can I find out who owns a property, it serves to unlock a treasure trove of other useful information as well. Answers many of my questions in a one stop shop. For those of you who have been reading this thread, I have tracked down the relevant resource in each state. So here it is: 

    1. Northern Territory

    Northern Territory Land Information System ( NTLIS )

    http://www.nt.gov.au/ntlis

    2. Western Australia

    Landgate

    http://www.landgate.wa.gov.au

    3. South Australia 

    Land Services Group

    http://www.landservices.sa.gov.au

    4. Victoria

    Land Channel

    http://www.land.vic.gov.au

    5. New South Wales

    Formerly known as LPMA

    http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au

    6. Queensland

    Dept of Enviroment & Resorce management

    http://www.derm.qld.gov.au

    7. Tasmania

    Dept of Primary Industries, Parks, Water & Enviroment

    http://www.dpiw.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf

     Thanks again Terry, very much appreciated. Sometimes answers may seem as obvious as the nose on your face to some , not so to others who don't know the answer, that's why it's important to ask questions in order to further your learning, no matter how stupid it may seem, there is no such thing as a stupid question !

    Kind Regards

    Peter  

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    Hi Qlds007,

    Thanks for your reply, the Title Search is definitely the way to go.

    Kind Regards

    Peter

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    Hi RPI, Thank you for your insights, very useful piece of information, I'll be sure to check the online mapping tools and also take a greater interest in the services that councils offer.

    Kind Regards

    Peter

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