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  • Profile photo of ezachary9ezachary9
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    Any help regarding investment in Melbourne, Australia?

    I am looking to to buy  a property between $150,000-$200,000. 

    What are the best areas to look at, and what gross weekly returns can one expect?

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    For that price I think your going to struggle. You might find a run down 1 bedroom unit if your lucky.

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    This one is under $200k. Doesn't seem rundown. And could bring in $300pw?

    http://m.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-north+melbourne-111719167

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    No maybe not but good luck in financing anything over a 60-70% max.

    I am not sure why you would want too buy something like this in an area which has peaked when you could buy something in an area on the back up.

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    It's student accommodation.  Good luck getting it to grow in value.  You can do better with your money.  Take a look at houses in Ballarat for instance.

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    JacM wrote:
    It's student accommodation.  Good luck getting it to grow in value.  You can do better with your money.  Take a look at houses in Ballarat for instance.

    I agree, it may be cheap but its cheap for a reason. Renting it out would be hard with all the other competition.

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    In my opinion it is a little bit cheap for Melbourne property. I do not think you will be able to find anything decent for this price, but good luck anyway!

    Profile photo of Ziv Nakajima-MagenZiv Nakajima-Magen
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    Just liquidated my own Melbourne property since I stand to make x3.5 the cashflow, x20-30 the diversity and hedging in Japan. (With 5% of the portfolio as holiday/short-term lets, so possibly higher).

    As for capital growth, in melb. it’s been growing at app. 2.5% p/a for the last 3 years (which is superb, all things considered, but its in a superb location and has land attached, so not like yours). Age same or older than I’d get in Japan to keep yields high (mid-80s)

    Will report what I got for it in Japan when I do.

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    Hi All,

    Yep there is better value out there,

    http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-colac-110190765 (disclaimer this property may not suit your investing needs, seek professional advice for your situation blah blah etc)

    The reality is that you can get cheap property, and good rent, but it may not actually be anywhere near Melbourne. Or Sydney or Perth or any capital city.

    The good thing is these regional areas do get some growth and you can add value through reno's when you get more confident.

    My opinion.

    Cheers

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    Profile photo of Ziv Nakajima-MagenZiv Nakajima-Magen
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    Still going ahead with that Melbourne purchase, ezachar? (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/realestate/news/melbourne-property-prices-take-another-tumble-in-october/story-fndcv32g-1226508321671)

    that could, of course, mean its the perfect time to buy, too…still, the rest of Australia is possibly due for a bit of bubble burst when the current mining cycle fizzes out, or so offshore analysts say…

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    zmagen,

    to quote Freckle – what a load of rubbish! (take it as the lol it is)

    So the median (middle) house price went down by 5k. not really a big drop in the scheme of things. The mortgage repayments on something around median is probably $2500 per month maybe. So this equates to 2 months worth of repayments. Not really worth the dramatic headline.

    There is no bubble.

    And really it depends where in Melbourne you are buying, it's like if you said Los Angeles house prices have dropped, or Tokyo house prices have dropped… you'd then ask where in Tokyo, where in LA.

    There are some good buying bits of Melb, you can still buy under $500k in heaps of areas, then you have the pricier bits, over the 1.5mil mark.

    Just keeping it real friends.

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    If they don’t stop falling he will be able to purchase a house with loose change!

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    LOL,

    If they keep falling JacM and I will be forced to become cash money heroes and buy up all that terrible, terrible property in Camberwell, Kew, Mount Lawley, Manly, all those places where house prices will crash………. ;)

    Also since JacM and I also have our tent strategy set up, we will redevelop our properties into tent towns and charge rent.

    Bubble – we got dat covered.

    I can joke about it, I wouldn't be joking if were likely to happen.

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    I wonder which period of time a house in Kew and Camberwell was only between $150 – $200k ? My guess mid 80’s?

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    Good guess! I think you are pretty much on the money.

    Will time turn back to 30 years ago?

    Cheers

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    Profile photo of Ziv Nakajima-MagenZiv Nakajima-Magen
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    I wasn't saying this is THE indication, but I do think Australia has a correction coming, and it may not be very slight. Just another thought to consider.

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    I think the Melbourne market will continue  to grow but it may be slow for the next few years. Personally I prefer to develop property in Melbourne because at least by doing that we can get property at a real wholesale price. If you are going to pay retail at least do your due diligence very carefully. Make sure that there is demand in the area. Stay away from the city area of Melbourne there are 1000s of apartments coming out of the ground. The end result will be very slow growth. Inner city areas are good. As an example we are building in Essendon. We have looked at Kew and bayside as well.

    Also look at what properties are actually selling for that will tell you what the properties that you are looking at are worth

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    zmagen wrote:
    I wasn't saying this is THE indication, but I do think Australia has a correction coming, and it may not be very slight. Just another thought to consider.

    Ziv, do you think it will be like property in USA where you can pick up something at a very unbelievable price? I agree with you, and it ain’t going to be small.

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    jmsrachel wrote:
    Ziv, do you think it will be like property in USA where you can pick up something at a very unbelievable price? I agree with you, and it ain't going to be small.

    No idea, pure speculation, but the one trick pony economy and bunkering in china (and I don't believe for one second their "growth forecast upgrades" on the eve of leadership changeover) have to take their toll, and Australia, Pre or post GFC v.1, is as one-tricky as they get, plus heavy in household debt like there ain't no tomorrow. All those job and empty mining town losses will have to ricochet somewhere. Hope I'm wrong, but a continued boom or anything beyond modest, barely profitable growth, is not a given, far from it, in my opinion.

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    Hi Nigel,

    I have to agree with you on all comments, The market is quiet slow in melbourne, Every 2nd week I go to a few opens and even conduct a couple of opens my self for a real estate firm i used to work, Just to keep a grip on the market.

    The last three months the number of people comming to opens around various areas has been very slow.

    I have had some opens where no one will even turn up.

    In terms fo apartmenmts you couldnt say it any better, melbourne has so many new sites comming up, you tend to think once their all completed who the hell do they think will buy these properties?

    Essendon, Great area to build apartments, So many people want to live in the area but to buy a home your looking at 1 mil +

    so an apartment offers the clients an alternative soultion and a better entyry price as well.

    Are you doing the site on Mount alexandre rd? Next to buckley street?

    I dont live to far from the area would love to check it out…

    Cheers

     

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