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  • Profile photo of gavsamgavsam
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    Hi there,

    In a nutshell…..

    Just wondering and thinking about setting up a discretionary trust or similar so that I can purchase property in the trusts name and not my own name (thus the trust/properties in trust is untouched if i was to get sued civiliy ……. with all that is going on in todays world we can be sued for almost anything)

    My question is If I have assets – ie: my own home in my name, will banks accept my home as security while my brand new trust is set up in the name / company name of my choosing….. as without a loan from the bank to purchase investment properties in the trust its over before it has begun.

    Hope you can help

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    Hi

    Most lenders will not have a problem lending to a newly established trust as they will require you (and other adult beneficiaries) to guarantee/indemnify the borrowing.

    With your property as collateral you should no problems.

    Mike

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    Don't assume that the trust assets cannot be touched. It all depends on the structure, how it is set up and how things are conducted.

    I agree with Mike on the bank side however – new trust won't be a problem if you can qualify for finance on your own.

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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Hi Gav

    As the boys have pointed out financing a property using a newly formed Trust will not be a problem however you will be suprised how lending terms will differ.

    All things being equal there is no reason why you shouldn't get the rate / applic fees etc as you would if you were buying in your own name.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    Hi TerryW,

    Can you elaborate a bit on your points just in the process of planning a trust what should I include/avoid so assets can never be touched !?

    Thanks..

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    Additionally, do you need a 20% deposit when purchasing through a trust or can you get away with 10%+ and LMI?

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    I

    Gazza21 wrote:
    Hi TerryW,

    Can you elaborate a bit on your points just in the process of planning a trust what should I include/avoid so assets can never be touched !?

    Thanks..

    Could write a book on this topic as there are so many ways a trusts assets could be at risk. 

    Setting up through an accountant or your is very dangerous. 

    Consider the following

    type of trust

    terms of deed

    classes of bebeneficiaries 

    How to contribute capital

    who should be trustee

    control of trustee

    who is director of trust

    number of shareholders of trustee

    constution of trustee

    specific benbeneficiaries 

    Who is appointor

    how many appointor

    death of appointorde

    ath of major people behind trust

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    this foru

     Hard to navigate and stupid auto correct I give up trying to post on an iPhone 

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    I found that when typing on my iphone, in reply to a message on this forum, you type away and then it takes about 2 secs for the characters to appear on the screen. Doesn't seem to happen with other forums. And then the curser jumps around – which could be due to my fat fingers.

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    Let me expand on my post above.

    Some things to consider when setting up a trust:

    Consider the following

    type of trust

    terms of deed

    classes of beneficiaries

    How to contribute capital to trust

    who should be trustee

    control of trustee

    who should be director of trustee

    number of shareholders of trustee company

    who should be shareholders of trustee?

    constitution of trustee

    specific beneficiaries

    default beneficiaries

    right to retain income in the trust

    Who should be appointor

    how many appointor

    death of appointor

    should there be a guardian

    death of major people behind trust

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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    Gazza21 wrote:
    Additionally, do you need a 20% deposit when purchasing through a trust or can you get away with 10%+ and LMI?

    Its possible to get 90%

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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    With the right lender you could actually get 95% in a newly established Trust.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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