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  • Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    aan offset is a savings account  so if you have used money from an offset then there is no interest incurred. it is like using cash.

    but if u take money out of an offset the interest on the loan it is attached to will increase  so indirectly interest is incurred.

    if the loan is investment then it will result in savings. if the loan is not deductible then there will be no change in deductibility. the interest on the home loan will increase however and this extra interest wont be deductible which means you will be losing out. therefore it is better to borrow to pay investment expenses rather than use offset money

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    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Hi NM7

    Looks like Terry answered it.

    Put simply – when you used borrowed money for investing purposes, it's deductible.

    When you use cash, it isn't.

    That's why I mentioned in the previous post that if Dreaming Big was going to purchase another IP, it might be an idea to use the banks money (borrowed funds) rather than his/her cash from the offset.

    Which could simply mean placing the cash from the offset onto the loan – and redrawing it out.

    Quick disclaimer though – I'm not an accountant! So would always recommend appropriate professional advice is sought.

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    aan offset is a savings account  so if you have used money from an offset then there is no interest incurred. it is like using cash.

    but if u take money out of an offset the interest on the loan it is attached to will increase  so indirectly interest is incurred.

    if the loan is investment then it will result in savings. if the loan is not deductible then there will be no change in deductibility. the interest on the home loan will increase however and this extra interest wont be deductible which means you will be losing out. therefore it is better to borrow to pay investment expenses rather than use offset money

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    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Jamie M wrote:
    Which could simply mean placing the cash from the offset onto the loan – and redrawing it out.

    I should have also mentioned that Dreaming Bigs loan was already a deductible, IP loan. If it were a PPOR loan, then it would be best to set-up a second loan split altogether so as to distinguish the non-deductible from deductible debt.

    Cheers

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    Hi Jamie & Terry,

    Thank you kindly for your insights. It surely does place the picture in perspectives.
    I basically don’t have any non-deductible loans & have used the loan against my PPOR which has an offset account as a LOC.
    This loan is only used for investment purposes (eg. 20% deposits for other IPs, renovation costs for IPs, etc). Our monthly salaries are deposited directly into the offset account (as I don’t have any other non-deductible loans) and parked there until I find good use for it.

    All my other IPs, I’ve taken a loan of 80% against the individual IP as security as I was advised that it best not to have cross-collateral loans. My only doubt is that when I use funds from the offset account for IP related expenses; do I really have to move the funds into the PPOR loan (which is an Investment Purposes loan) & do a withdraw of it? Being with CBA, minimum withdrawal amount is $500 & many times I have very small IP expenses which I transfer out directly from the offset account (which increases the PPOR loan & hence has the same effect of drawing it).

    I do hope you understand what I’m trying to explain & let me know if I’ve not been very clear. Once again, appreciate your expertise advice as usual.

    Cheers’
    NM7

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    Are you saying you borrowed money and parked it in an offset account?

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    Terryw wrote:
    Are you saying you borrowed money and parked it in an offset account?

    Hi Terry,

    As mentioned, I use the loan secured against my PPOR as a LOC and fund 20% + extras (eg. stamp duty, etc). The PPOR loan does have an offset account and I dump all our incomes into that offset account to reduce the interest payable on the PPOR loan (which I know is deductible but why pay more interest on it if I can reduce it).

    Regards,
    Nish

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    Since the offset account is just cash there should be no tax consequences how you pay for bills. Just take the cash out of the offset and pay or electronic transfer etc.

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    Thanks for the updates Terry – yup, I ran it passed my accountant who had similar views as well.

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