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  • Profile photo of Rory BreakerRory Breaker
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    I use Cash on Cash return as outlined by Steve to evaluate deals with potential and I include instant equity gain.  For example below is a deal from another Country that I recently looked at and came up with the following return…

    Annual net cash flow     $8,459
    Instant equity              $40,000
    Total annual gain         $48,459
    Net cash needed          $59,026
    Cash on Cash Return    82.10% (Total annual gain/Net cash needed)

    The reason I evaluate like this is it allows me to compare with another deal that may have instant capital gain or even a capital loss.  The issue though is that the instant capital gain cannot be realised until I redraw at least 6 months later, and when I do I will pay interest which will intern put up the repayments unless otherwise put into an offset account.  If the instant capital gains were not taken into account when evaluating the deal the Cash on Cash Return would be 14.33%.

    Should capital gains be taken into account when evaluating this deal?

    What are others opinions?

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Capital gains haven't happened yet – so hard to evaluation. But no point in investing without them so you need to consider.

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    Profile photo of Rory BreakerRory Breaker
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    Good call Terryw

    It goes back to the type of investor to a degree – capital gains or cash flow.  If cash flow then capital gains may follow later on but is not originally considered in assessing the deal.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    sorry about my poor grammar – i type fast

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    Profile photo of v8ghiav8ghia
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    Terryw wrote:
    sorry about my poor grammar – i type fast

    It's also late too Terry – and you could have been indulging in the 'product of the vine' perhaps???????

    Profile photo of Rory BreakerRory Breaker
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    Ah…don't we all from time to time! "the product of the vine" that is.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Hi

    No, I don't generally drink alcohol. Just a natural bad speller

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    Profile photo of Rory BreakerRory Breaker
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    That's the problem with generalising!

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