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  • Profile photo of godivergodiver
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    Is it possible to reorganise loans if you have a large POP loan (non-tax deductible) and 2 smaller loans on IP's? Can you redistribute the debt so that the debt on the IP's is increased and the debt on the POP is reduced to increase the overall tax deductibility on the debt? And would you have to refinance with a new lender in order to do so? Or any other way out of this financial disaster!!

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Hi Godiver

    It's not that simple.

    You can re-gear debt but it will involve selling the assets to a new entity or a spousal sale.

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Jamie has nailed it in one.

    I have 101 clients who have done similar however it does come at a cost.
    Normally depending on the State you are in there is Stamp Duty payable on the Transfer.

    Still depending on how long you intend to stay in the property can be well worth it.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

    Profile photo of Ron the Mortgage BrokerRon the Mortgage Broker
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    Hello,

    In short no you can't redistribute debt.

    that is why it's best to use offset account from the start to avoid this happening, because you can redistribute saving from offset account from deductible to non deductible offset account debt.

    In saying this , I heard there are accountants out there who would "redistribute" the debt, but just up to the purchase price only
    This is not legally correct. ATO might not caught this if you're small but definitely will catch if you're a big player.

    Profile photo of Tim@TickTim@Tick
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    Hi Godiver

    I would also seek advice from a tax professional about transferring any assets to a spouse solely for a tax benefit; I'm pretty sure that you may be caught under the anti-avoidance rules of the ATO.

    Tim McGrath, Tick Mortgage Solutions
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    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Tim,

    You are right. Everyone should get tax advice from a lawyer and/or accountant.

    But have a look at ATO ID 2001/79
    http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=AID/AID200179/00001

    Issue

     

    Whether interest on funds borrowed to acquire the share of the taxpayer's spouse (the spouse) in a property, to be kept for investment purposes is deductible.

    Decision

     

    The interest is deductible under section 8-1 to the extent that the borrowed funds are used for the purposes of producing assessable income.

     

     

    But the ATO could still apply Part IVA

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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