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  • Profile photo of billhbillh
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    @billh
    Join Date: 2011
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    Hello, just signed on and new to the "positive cash flow 'property game. I am looking at using my super funds to purchase a property or properties in Sydney. I am keen to find a cash positive invesstment/s and was wondering hopw many people out there actually have mulyiple properties in a cash positive position and how dod they do it . I have up to 300 k in funds that I can use and am looking for some direction on the best way forward …Hope you can help
    Regards
    Bill

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    @xdrew
    Join Date: 2010
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    Bill .. if you are looking for exclusively cash flow postive properties in the current market you are looking for a very generous upside. Most places at the moment are trending towards the mid 4% or less .. requiring a 4% improvement margin just to create a positive cashflow. Thats if you are working with capital cities. If you head to country areas .. you can go as high as 11% but it comes with proportionate risk. The correct approach however would be learning how to alleviate or minimise the risk components involved to produce a better outcome.

    So the ultimate answer I can give you for the moment, read some good books (there is these couple from a guy called Steve) on how to find .. procure .. manage .. and profit from property. I think the idea you have of just waltzing into a positively geared investment is a recipe for future disasters. Learn your trade and then profit from it. And even in the current market there are hot deals to be made. I have just picked up a block of four properties returning 8.4% gross. Which means after my 20% is factored in, they are totally postively geared. But i spent two months learning the area .. the risks and the benefits. I got the local paper, talked to several agents to understand the market, then went off to talk to a couple of the locals. By the time I laid down my hardearned, the strategy for owning the property was already confirmed.

    The correct answer is read. Lots, and as quickly as possible.

    Profile photo of billhbillh
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    @billh
    Join Date: 2011
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    Hi Drew, thanks for taking the time to comment. I understand the need for research and am serioulsy considering commissioning a 3rd party to find , analyse and negotaite on my behalf. I have a fair idea as to where I should be looking in Sydney. I guess the grey area for me is do I pump a large deposit on one unit or do I spread the deposit over say 2-3. Is it better to go for say one unit around 700k with a large deposit or 2 units between 450-500 with a modest deposit, keeping in mind I am also using my 9% superannuation contribution in the repayments. So I guess to some degree the unit/s arent really cash positive in their own right

    trust that makes sense :)

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    @qlds007
    Join Date: 2003
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    Bill remember if you purchase 2 individual properties you will need to set up 2 separate Bear Trusts.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

    Profile photo of billhbillh
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    @billh
    Join Date: 2011
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    thanks for your input Qld,although I have been told a company trust will overcome the need for two bear trusts

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    @jamie-m
    Join Date: 2010
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    Hi Bill

    Welcome to the forum.

    Xdrew has provided some excellent comments. Some additional reading recommendations can be found in this thread – https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/community/heads-up/6845

    Cheers

    Jamie

    Jamie Moore | Pass Go Home Loans Pty Ltd
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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Hi Bill regretfully not.

    A separate Trust is required and most lenders require a Corporate Trustee anyway.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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