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  • Profile photo of DHCPDHCP
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    Hi All,

    After reading 10 real estate property books which include the most critical part of "crunching" the numbers.

    I know there are a lot of cash flow program for investment property in the market but now sure which one suitable for me.

     I'm looking for a "cash flow" program that can be purchase online or free to download that is not too cumbersome for a novice property investor like me. In addition, the cash flow program should be suitable for property producing cash flow or negatively geared investment property.

    Or, if you currently using one that has worked for you well in the past, even now, which enables you to make the right decision on the property before you made your an offer.

    Appreciate any recommendation.

    Regards, Leo

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Just do your own in excel. That way you learn more as well.

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    Profile photo of EPI_DenEPI_Den
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    Hey Leo,

    I tried a few products but ended up just making my own spreadsheet. As Terry says, it was a great opportunity to learn too.

    I made sure I considered the following:

    • purchase price
    • interest rate (and I ensured I inflated it a bit for safety)
    • loan value
    • expected rent
    • management fees
    • other costs (water, rates, body corp etc)
    • any costs associated with the loan, including set-up fees and ongoing fees
    • stamp duty and other purchasing charges (which can vary from state to state)
    • depreciation (and build year)
    • insurance

    My spreadsheet is a bit of a work in progress still (and I have ten properties) but I'm very happy with it. Kaz and I are developing some software which will hopefully do a better job and I can let you know when we've done it if you'd like.

    I also have a very rough spreadsheet which only considers:

    • purchase price
    • interest rate (and I ensured I inflated it a bit for safety)
    • loan value
    • expected rent
    • stamp duty and other purchasing charges (which can vary from state to state)
    • a rough estimate of other costs

    which I use when I want a really rough estimate of how a property will perform. The rough guide gives me a good indication of whether a property is worth investigating further and it's great because I don't spend my time on stuff that might sound better than it actually is.

    Have a go at creating your own spreadsheet!

    Good luck!
    Den

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    I thought this one was pretty cool – IP calculator Might be a bit more technical than you had in mind though.

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    Profile photo of DHCPDHCP
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    Hello Den

    Thanks for your detailed response.

    I have a similar excel worksheet. If I want to quantify only the rental income and its outgoing regarding a potential IP, is it necessary to include the other costs (e.g. stamp duty etc). For instance, if i want to know how much an IP negatively geared.

    BTW, how much do you charge for mentoring a newbie in IP?

    Cheers Leo

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