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  • Profile photo of IronladyIronlady
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    Hi

    Hope this question hasn't allready been answered and thanks for any input

    We own a small industrial shed which we live at and operate a fabrication business
    Would like to get out in the future
    Not sure what the bank would say if we sell using vendor finance

    Thanks

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    no, they don't like it. You may even be breaching the conditions of your mortgage agreement if you sell on vendor terms.

    If you just want to sell and will offer to fund the purchaser's deposit then the banks don't really like this either, but the problem will lie with the purchaser.

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    Profile photo of IronladyIronlady
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    Thanks Terryw will propably look at leasing it out then sell later

    Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi Ironlady

    Terry is correct in what he says.  It's also interesting to note that your mortgage documents probably also preclude you from renting your property, without getting your lender's authority.  And guess how many other Aussie's are breaching their mortgage documents by doing certain renovations to the property without lender authority.

    The banks seem to be in two minds about their feelings towards vendor finance.  I know a number of vendor financiers that have got multi million dollar lines of credit from two of the "4 majors" to run their residential real estate, vendor finance businesses.  And these lines of credit were given in the full knowledge that the properties bought with these LOC's were going to be on-sold with Instalment Contracts.

    Ultimately it's your decision and following are some information sources for the two most popular vendor finance strategies:

    1.  Instalment Contracts:
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/instalment_contracts.htm
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps

    2.  Lease/Options:    
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/rent_to_own.htm
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options

    A great general overview of vendor finance in Australia is available at:
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/vendor_finance_intro.htm

    As you mention leasing the property, it may be worthwhile thinking about selling the property with a Lease/Option.  As it's a commercial property, you won't be under the control of the Residential Tenancy Act for the "Lease" part of it (a real bonus).  Selling your commercail property with a Lease/Option has the real potential to get you a premium rent that should give you excellent positive cash flow.

    Cheers,  Paul

    Paul Dobson | Vendor Finance Institute
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    Profile photo of IronladyIronlady
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    Thanks Paul

    I think that could work for us but would check with bank first
    Not sure where we would find a buyer
    Is there any exrta costs to do Lease/option appart from normal lease and sale costs

    Thanks

    Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi Ironlady

    All you are doing here is Leasing the property.  Would you normally ask the bank for permission to  rent it?  Probably not.

    Then, just between you and the new tenant, you give them an Option to buy the place for a fixed price within a certain number of years.  This gives them the option, but not the obligation, to buy at this price at anytime during the term of the Option.

    In return for this Option the tenant pays you a premium rent.  Probably enough to cover all your costs on the property, plus some positive cash flow.  You may even credit some of their premium rent towards the tenants deposit on the property, if they buy during the term of the Option.  It's incredibly flexible and can be written up on the basis of what you both agree.

    I'd expect that getting the Commercial Lease drawn up, with an associated Option, will cost you somewhere around $1,000 to $1,200.  We, of course, pass these costs onto the buyer.

    Cheers,  Paul

    Paul Dobson | Vendor Finance Institute
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    Profile photo of IronladyIronlady
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    Hi Paul

    We would not tell the bank before we rented or sold
    Will give this some serious thoughts and contact you if we decide to go that way

    Thanks again

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