Hey everyone,
I'm just about to start painting the inside of my 1st home. All walls besides the kitchen are brick walls with a rendor that leaves the outlines of the brick showing and is very grainy ie. the paint is not flat against the wall, there are lots of lumps and swirls everywhere. I am looking at painting the walls so they become flat and smooth
What is the best way to do so?
Thanks very much for your help!!!
Hi howardcm,
I had a similar dilemma a few months back and decided that i needed to plaster it.
Depending on the size of the walls and amount of rooms this can be quite costly if using a tradesman…it can be done yourself although getting this right can be like climbing mount Everest without experience.Another solution which I used behind my splashbacks for my kitchen is to use boarding.
i.e. 3mm plasterboard.Good luck.
Miike
miike wrote:Hi howardcm,I had a similar dilemma a few months back and decided that i needed to plaster it.
Depending on the size of the walls and amount of rooms this can be quite costly if using a tradesman…it can be done yourself although getting this right can be like climbing mount Everest without experience.Another solution which I used behind my splashbacks for my kitchen is to use boarding.
i.e. 3mm plasterboard.Good luck.
Miike
Thanks for that Mike,
I'd be more then happy doing it myself, the paint I am using will be free as it will be left overs from my gf's parents house they are currently doing up.
There will be a family room with 3, 4 x 2m walls and a partial wall with stair case built in. 2 bedrooms with 4 walls about 3 x 2m and also a small hallway 2 walls 4 x 2m and 1x 2m. Quite a lot of work to do so would prefer to not go down the path of using plaster board.
I wonder how it would look if I just painted over it leaving the rough look?
Any other suggestions?
Sure, you can paint over it, remember however, that all marks will be visible…do at least 3 coats if using water based.
Even sanding to smooth it out will help!
Cheers,
Miikemiike wrote:Sure, you can paint over it, remember however, that all marks will be visible…do at least 3 coats if using water based.Even sanding to smooth it out will help!
Cheers,
MiikeThanks for the quick reply!
I think the smooth look would probably look better though, what do you think? It's a 1960/70's 2 bed 2 storey town house, with just the kitchen, lounge, 2 beds, bath and small hallway area upstairs. The house will become a rental in the next 3 to 6 months
I guess seeing as the paint I will be using is free it wont hurt to test it out and see how it looks!
No problem,
I am no expert when it comes to rentals…I am only on my first and am looking at rurning mine into a rental in around 6 months.
However, some things I can suggest would be to:
– Find out details on the demographic and your target rental market
– Talk to the real estate agents and discuss what things will increase the rent
– Think about how your structuring your your strategy with the property.
– Increasing your property value will assist in providing more funds for further investments
Good Luck
Cheers,
Miike
The texture you describe I would call bagged rather than render. There a few products on the market that can be painited over this to achieve a flat surface but are quite costly. I looked at them for my current reno, and it will never be "smooth" like a gyprock wall, there will always be a texture to it. I would also be doubtful that 3 coats of aterbased paint would cover the texture either. Do you recall the previously fashionable texture paints (suede finish and the like)? They now make special products to paint over first to provide a flat surface to paint over again, either that or try and sand.
With our reno, it proved cheaper, easier and a whole lot quicker to simply sheet with gyprock. Against a brick wall you lay purpose made vertical metal channel and that is you anchor points for the gyprock. Yes the plastering is tricky for a novice but with practice it gets easier.
Just a thought.
Though I have not seen how much uneven the surface of backside wall is. I would suggest to get a POP( Plaster of Paris) coat upon the wall if don’t want to go cement plaster because of financial reasons.
We had 3 walls bag rendered when we bought our PPOR 3 years ago. Painted them as feature walls. It did not affect rental when we made it an IP at the end of last year. A plastere we got in to do some work reckoned he could have gyprocked the walls quite cheaply for us
As mentioned the only way to achieve smooth surface is to gyprock, which involves removal of all skirts and cornice then installing gyprock befre replacing cornice and skirts. Fairly costly and unlikely to get you better rent return. The wall you mentioned definately sounds like it is bagged. If you want to knock off the high points, try using a brick or besser block as a sander, and rub over the wall, this will remove alot of the swirls etc, however you will still see all of the mortar joins.
You could also try acrylic render as this is only a few mm thick.
When painting, don't forget to use a sealer coat first, as the paint will notkey in properly to the exposed "Mud" (Bagging material)
good luck with the project
If you Gyprock it yourself (not difficult to do with a good DIY manual), it shouldn't be too expensive. Gyprock is only about $14 for a huge sheet in Bunnings, and you can tape and plaster the joins yourself if you follow instructions carefully. PLus, it just screws in place. Remember that you will lose up to 50mm on each side of the room that you Gyp, though.
Ditto, skirtings are very cheap at around $3 per linear metre in Bunnings and easily installed with liquid nails and some No More Gaps. Cornice might be an issue as it's harder to install and you might prefer a plasterer, but the materials aren't expensive there, either. The finish overall, is much nicer.
Of course, I am assuming that you need such things as cornice and skirting. You might be in an apartment that doesn't need it, like the last one I did!
Yes, it's probably more expensive than free paint if you just use paint, but it does depend on your location and target market as to whether it's worth you doing it. I agree you should talk to real estate agents or even think back to nicely-decorated places you might have seen in the same suburb before you bought to see what people in the area like.
In this market, with rents going up, it's a great time to go the extra mile. An apartment I did recently (2BRM, $133K in Western Sydney) in a lower socio-economic area jumped from $150pw to $240pw with a complete, cheap, refit. Well worth it to see it go positive cashflow!
And it's not how much you spend… it's what you pick to put in that counts. That can mean shopping for very cheap items that look expensive.
Whats wrong with the bagged look? Why not just paint it as is. If all the walls are bagged, then it will cost you to get it plastered and even more to get it gyprocked. If it was me I would just paint it. Use a light colour you would be surpeised at the difference just a freshh coat of paint will make.
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