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  • Profile photo of Katies007Katies007
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    Hi
    Just need a little help .
    We have purchased an IP last year, and currently  putting around $200 pw towards it which covers mortgage, body corps rates and water, now i understand whatever we put towards it we can claim so much back at the end of the tax year but is it just a percentage of what we paid as i have read if you are in the 40 % tax bracket thats what you claim back but are some things not 100 % deductable, like rates, body corps water and just the mortgage based at 40 %, any advice on this would be great

    thanks

    Profile photo of ducksterduckster
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    it is not the mortgage but rather the interest charged. The net rental income or net loss is placed in your tax return.
    So net loss = rental income – (interest charged + council rates paid + water rates + insurance paid + repairs + property manager fees+ borrowing costs over five years + depreciation)
    Then if it is a net loss
    your tax return is calculated as
    Taxable income = normal  earned before tax  income  –  net property loss
    if net property loss if a profit it will be added and you pay tax
    Keeping in mind that you paid tax as you earned income from a wage based on normal earned income before tax
    Your taxable income is reduced
    so you get the loss back via saving the tax it would have been.
    For example say your wage was $85,002 and your marginal tax rate was 40% then any thing over $75001 has 40% tax
    so if the net loss was $10,000 you would lower the taxable income from $85002 to 75002 and would get back $10,000 * 40/100 = $4000 for the tax already paid when you earned the $85002 during the year in wage

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00113233.htm

    Profile photo of karlm63karlm63
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    Hi Duckster,
    Just reading your post for Katies007 that is interesting because we are in the same boat and could I get in contact with you for further dicussion on that particular subject please.
    Thanks karlm.

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Karlm

    Remember in addition to the cash deductions such as interest, rates and body corporate fees etc there are also non cash items you can claim which include Depreciation and Building Write off.

    Have you arranged for a QS report to be done on the property ?

    Is your current loan an interest only loan or a Principal & Interest loan ?
    Are you claiming the shortfall anually in your Tax return or through your Pay coding by a variation to your salary.

    All of these things need to be review to ensure that your IP is costing you as little as possible.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

    Profile photo of karlm63karlm63
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    Hi Duckster,
    Thanks for the super quick response.
    I only just a few minutes ago put that post there !!!!!!!!
    Yes I have a depreciation report done.
    The IP is an I/O loan.
    My last accountant said it was not worth worrying about but the next accountant might think otherwise.
    I work for the gov and my tax for that particular job is between $1000 – $1200 per fortnight.
    I am looking for another  tax  accountant as my normal bloke lives at Peakhurst and I live at Gosford on the Central Coast someone local would be good if possible.
    The 07/08 financial just passed we have payed out approx 20K.
    That includes I/O repayments
                            Management fees
                            Rates and Water
                            Telephone
                            Repairs and Maintenance
                            Insurance
                            Etc
    With that formular you posted earlier is that how it works with tax refunds.
    I dont know if this IP is pos or neg, how is it worked out?
    Thanks karlm

    Profile photo of Hot propertyHot property
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    Katies007 wrote:
    Hi
    Just need a little help .
    We have purchased an IP last year, and currently  putting around $200 pw towards it which covers mortgage, body corps rates and water, now i understand whatever we put towards it we can claim so much back at the end of the tax year but is it just a percentage of what we paid as i have read if you are in the 40 % tax bracket thats what you claim back but are some things not 100 % deductable, like rates, body corps water and just the mortgage based at 40 %, any advice on this would be great

    thanks

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Karlm

    Without the actual figures it is difficult to summise whether it is is + or – but if you have had to pay out it sounds to me like it is -.

    Dont you love those Accountants who tell you not to bother claiming anything in the QS report.

    Did you claim all of your loan costs etc proportionalised over the loan term or 5 years ?

    Sounds like you are missing a lot of deductions.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

    Profile photo of WJ HookerWJ Hooker
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    Sounds like Katies007 needs to do some reading !

    You shouldn't jump into investing or any other plan without first doing some research.

    Good advise by posters. As stated its very hard to explain in a few words how negative gearing, tax matters etc work, that's what the text books are used for.

    Profile photo of karlm63karlm63
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    Hi Mate again,
    What sort of figures and I will send them if you like !!!!!!!!!
    That email at the bottom of your post is it alright to send you the info on that.!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks karlm

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Properyt Income and all property expenses and details from your QS report.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    Qld007

    Hi Mate,
    Just sent email with the info you asked for.
    Any more info please dont hesitate to email please.

    Thanks again
    karlm

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