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  • Profile photo of LLCWLLCW
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    Hey everyone,

    Has anyone goen thru Carly's Prop developer course? I am curious to know how she stacks up…. went to her seminar a couple of days ago…. And a LOT of people were desperate to buy into the dream!

    Cheers all
    L

    Profile photo of Michael 888Michael 888
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    I have gone thru her DVD home study and it is excellent. Very broad and encompasses all facets of the developing process. I've not come across anything like it in Australia. There are a few books out there but only one by Andersen "Residential Real Estate Development" really entertains the topic well.

    I am going to her boot camp live seminar in June in Sydney. Looking for extra info and also the networking should be huge. There is another thread that I have posted in with a similar query regarding ccorp. I hope the following link works

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/community/heads-up/4324196?

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    Thanks Michael, let me know how you go! I am doing the RESULTS Program starting this June myself, and thought that after a 'general intro' this may lead into something more specialised (development is what really interests me).
    Thanks
    Lisa

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    Hi Lisa,

    focus on what you are doing for now as a more broad based intro. Carly's stuff is certainly more specialised but not too narrow as to only offer one straegy in the development game.

    I will post after  I have attended her three day course.

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    Does anyone know when is Carly's next seminar in Melbourne is ?

    Cheers

    Learning 1

    Profile photo of Michael 888Michael 888
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    Go to

    http://www.ccorp.com.au

    Email or give them a call.

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    Hi guys, not sure if this post is still going….but I am really curious for feedback on this….I also did the home DVD course and it was really inspiring and well presented and full of information…..however, when I started to put into action what I had learned, the magical 20% was impossible to achieve….I had Mentoring support, however the responsiveness was not good…and the responses I received showed that the 'Mentor' knew less than I did and couldn't explain how to get the 20% return. So I decided to claim the money back guarantee (which I have to say was refunded without any fuss) and it stopped there….

    The bank seems to expect the 20% so it must be possible I figure…

    I would be really keen to know if anybody attending the course has learned how and where to get 20% in a real life example with detailed analysis and scrutiny?

    I have to say that I was disappiointed with the outcome of my search…

    Would really appreciate any feedback, both positive and negative!

    Thanks,
    Ben

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    I may be a little bit too old school not having been near any of the 'intensive' courses. However, I would not look at a site unless I can get 25-30% on the project as a gross return, ie at least 15% IRR. This applies to new projects not necessarily refurbishments as you cannot make that sort of % on a minor refurb (unless you have bought a dog with fleas and negotiated out the fleas).

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    Yep, nothing wrong with old school… old school is GOOD.

    Ben you need that dogged determination to find the deal.  20 to 25% is minimum i would be looking for. There is deals around to problem i find is that people don't have the bravery to do it.

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    Thansk for the replys guys…I tried to contact you both to discuss but no luck. Are you both able to find projects in the current climate that produces 20%?

    i.ie Profit = 20% of TOTAL of all Costs on a project where all end products have been sold (including selling and settlement costs)

    I have finally found an area and a constrcution type that will deliver this 20% but it is all theoretical…

    Do some areas work and others just dont?

    I have spent a bit of time doing feasabilites on developments that are up for sale and I am constantly surprised how many don't make anywhere near the 20%….and yet people undertake them….I am starting to think that either these are builders who have their extra margin or they have relied on market increases to deliver their profit (I don't see this as a valid mechanism for delivering profit…you might as well buy a property and sit on it if you are relying on the market increases to deliver profit)…

    Are either of you guys prepared to have a detailed phone conversation on how it is done?

    Ben

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    Hi Ben,
                     I too am new to the area of developments and had the same question myself aup until early this year until a mate and I sat down and looked through hundreds of properties all over Australia.  We looked closely at some conducting feasibilities etc etc. It is definately possible but you are right there are deals out there that don't stack up but people still buy them.

    I have found that to get the ball rolling it is best to start off in areas that are a fair bit cheaper.  ie Satellite Citys. This keeps your initial cost down. Areas that I tend to look at are Ipswich, Toowomba, Ballarat, Bendigo, Burnie, Devonport, Launceston. These areas often have larger blocks that can be subdivided and developed.   In esscence by subdividing you get a block of land for around 20K.  The 20K being for subdivision costs. 

    Where land is bought only I have found for a small development 2-3 units the figures do not stack up.  And the more units you put on the land (pending council zoning) the more risk involved for the bank particularly if you are small developer like myself.  My best advice to get started is to do a subdivision and put 2 units on the rear block or even a house if the figures stack up.

    Banks are being very tight on developments at this point in time.  Another major hurdle is convincing them you have enough income to service the loan during building.  Which once again limits how many units quality you can build in turn affecting the 20% figure.

    You could also consider keeping one if selling one gives you enough cash to start up another project.

    My bank has mentioned that after this current development (I wish to keep them) I will have to reduce my debt somewhere along the line.  I have decided that I am going to sell one of my existing properties which is post war home.  The main reason for choosing this one (other than it underperforming) is that the depreciation benefit is no where near as good as it will be on the new units.  I will continue this process where require.  Sell older property to keep new property.

    I have heard Carly talk about Option agreements which are great but hard to source when you are starting out.

    Keep asking questions and talking to like minded people it is the only way to learn.  Michael Yardneys book is a good read and there is also a online Chapter 27 Developments which isn't included in the book. 

    All the best.

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    Hi All,

    I saw Carly on secret millionaire last night and was amazed by her story. I am now looking to buy her DVDs. But I wanted to know if you guys could tell me how she managed to buy property when she was homeless. Did she have backers in order to raise the capital?

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    Justin,
                   From what I know she worked all but for free for a developer and just learnt and learnt and learnt off him as well as assisting him with finding deals.  I believe she ended up finding a deal and he bought it off her thus making a heap of cash to get the ball rolling……

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    hey guys.

    just wondering how do you find out the costs associated with building. i can find places and see how much i can sell for but its the cost of building that im having trouble figuring out.

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    Hi all

    I have done Carly’s 3 day bootcamp and from there joined her Elite mentoring program 18mths ago. It has been exceptionally good. I have to say that I had some property development experience with subdividing, dual occ’s etc before I did the course that but I learnt about the importance of feasibilities and I have no trouble finding the 20%+ MDC sites. Having also done a property options course it is simply a matter of being able to talk with a vendor, to find out what the problem is and how you can fix it. If you can create the win/win/win situation for everyone, you will be able to make it work. I now have a 5x 3bd T/H site under option while I organise the DA. Knowing how to do a feaso, allowed me to show the vendor why it only worked at a certain purchase price. The other things I have learnt from Carly is how to be creative around financing the deal which may also allow you to create a workable deal where there was no deal.

    Enjoy the property development journey and if I can be of assistance don’t hesitate to get in touch!

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    I have just participated in Carly’s free one day seminar. She is an inspiring public speaker and great sales woman. i was particularly amazed to hear that you can definately start and make money in property development/investment with NO money of your own.

    Does anyone have advice or experience with that? Can you really start in property without a cent at all??

    I would love to buy her training package if I had $6000. I believe she does have valuable knowlege to impart, but i still wouldn’t have any money to invest after I completed this training anyway (less infact!) Is it really possible to make a start in this world without money?

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    Hi Justine,

    You can certainly do deals with no money down if you have other skills to bring to the table. There are many people who have money but no time so if you have the time to source and create a profitable deal for them, you should get paid well for your effort. There is a lot of work involved and you must be prepared to work hard and learn as much as you can as quickly as you can if you are going to do no money down deals. There are a lot of courses out there to choose from and you won’t learn everything you need to learn from one person. I suggest that you spend your time attending all the free and low cost property seminars that you can and decide what area of property investing interests you the most and then get to know that area very, very well. At some point you are going to have to spend money on your education, so I suggest that you put aside a set amount each week into an account so that when you find the right course or the right mentor, you can afford it. In the meantime, keep learning all that you can, take action on what you have learned as much as you can and have FUN! Dream big and look for the opportunities that support your dreams.
    Cheers, Fran
    P.S. One of the simplest ways to use no money is vendor finance. This is where the owner of the property you want to purchase, leaves at least the deposit amount in the deal. As long as you can service the loan at 100% finance this shouldn’t be too hard. Tips: You usually have to ask lots of vendors before you find one that will do it. You will need a good solicitor to draw up the correct contacts. Perhaps look at rural areas where the purchase price is not so high and find a property that you can add value to immediately to increase your equity. Hope this helps.

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    I went to a free seminar and was not impressed all just hype, many of her strategies would not suit the new investors.

    I also note that many of her clients seem to open shop providing mentoring programs on the same, which is a worry.

    I have yet to meet someone who can provide details on a successful project, am happy to be wrong if anyone cares to share.

    Cheers, WI

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