Carly Crutchfield (developing)

Hi Morty,

i'm very interested in looking at Carlys program and would appreciate a look if it's still available.  ANyone else out there in Brisbane that has done Carlys course and is happy to share knowledge I can share time and energy.

cheers luvly

There's a whole lot of talk and discussion going on about Carly Crutchfield and CCorp at the moment. The main links I found are:

http://forpropertyinvestors.com/blog/blog/2009/carly-crutchfield-developments/
http://www.carlycrutchfieldexposed.com/

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A Perry;  I do agree with most of the points you have made. You are right when you say that the financial services industry is full of deception as well. You're also right  when you say that " there are very few gurus who teach information that is not of some value".    My only concern is;  That is precisely how and why it has become so easy for spruikers to deceive the masses. If they get just the right mix of truth and fiction it can be very hard to distinguish between the two.

 It's the hidden agendas that are hard to detect and many of these spruikers have convinced themselves that they are doing nothing wrong by having these agendas. Business is business right? Mostly they are in it for the money, not the love of helping people as they claim!  I think that much of the information classified by these spruikers as 'secrets of the rich' are not secrets at all. Unfortunately the spruikers have led the masses into believing that they are the only ones who hold the key to discovery, and the key will be handed to you when you attend our bootcamp or weekend seminar. Now that's a joke. In fact you will see a lot of pshchological techniques in play at these seminars, including techniques like NLP.  In my view it's positively dangerious for the newbys (and in some cases even the more experienced.) 

I do believe that it's time that things like this were more openly discussed on these forums and it seems to be happening a lot more now. Anyway, best of luck with your investing, and of course my advice is to avoid the spruikers altogether!! There are too many mines you can step on! 

I agree J.

I’ve definitely noticed a decreasing sense of responsibility among younger generations. Nowadays, it’s always someone else’s problem. You fall over, you sue the council. Your coffee is hot, you sue the cafe.

Same in this situation, CCORP provides investment strategies and someone fails to successfully implement these strategies. In the end, it is all CCORP’s fault.

I find it disgusting.

I have implemented some of these strategies and they have helped me secure ownership of two new properties this year. So don’t tell me that thy don’t work.

You just need to implement them correctly!

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Looks to me like Carly has her Scientology team on the thread now. I note first posts for both Johnathan_Frickens and Luka B.

 What you have both failed to consider is that there is some very damning evidence emerging about Carly Crutchfield and Steve Fagan. It has been posted on this website: http://www.carlycrutchfieldexposed.com for all to see. By all means make your own judgements after considering all of the information, but don't be foolish enough to just blindly follow what Carly is now claiming.

 You see the facts are that Carly has illegally breached a legally binding contract. She has claimed that  the deal was set up under a property option agreement and that as such she had no legal obligation to settle. Had this been true, I would have to agree with her, however what she has omitted to tell everyone, is that the deal was not set up under an ordinary Option at all. It was set up under  Put and Call Option and there is a big difference. Under a Put and Call Option, she is required to settle but instead she liquidated the $2 shelf company that she signed the contract under, resigned as a director and regeged on all her promises to the seller. This is outright dishonesty and she deserves to be exposed for it. Steve Fagan is no better and let me tell you there are a lot more skeletons in Steve's closet to be exposed yet as well.   

This is a typical example of Carly and Steve only telling part of the truth. The naive, like our two new posters on this forum, have once again fallen victim to Carly's lies and decept. They continue to worship and back their guru in blind trust.       

This has nothing to do with personal responsibility, or failing to implement the strategies that students have been taught. It has to do with the honest and integrity of Carly Crutchfield and Steve Fagan. It also has to do with the fact that Carly and Steve's whole profiles have been build on outragious lies and mindblowing deception.  Now the chickens have come home to roost and I predict that it won't be too long before the administrators close them down for good. Perhaps this will be a lesson to others just like them.

So before you come back on here making the rediculious claims, and blaming the students for not following the strategies, how about checking out the facts about your gurus first,  Johnathan_Frickens and Luka B?    

Hmm not really mercii,

I think you misunderstand Luka, he’s saying that in the case here of poor financial planning and understanding they’ve blamed the company who inquired doing a deal with them. In both cases CCORP signed no binding agreement and were in preliminary stages when they pulled out due to lack of feasibility, and thats fine.

Fact is these people were in trouble to begin with, and remain so, and not at the fault of CCORP whatsoever. If you want to personally blacklist CCORP, fine go ahead. Just be aware that the good companies do the right deals and no business in their right mind takes on a property they suspect will end up costing them money. Simple as that, sad story for a couple of people, but hey, don’t go hating on CCORP for that.

@mercii

All I can see is two cases where people think they have been jipped. If these agreements were ever real, it would be the police chasing Carly and CCORP, at the moment its only scummy journo Brain Seymour and his camera and sound man.

These were never agreements that got to the deal point, and CCORP withdrew. Sure, these two cases are pissed off, whatever, thats a corporation for you, find me a company which doesn’t have at least one of two angry people.

Have a look below, only if you want to put these two cases into perspective, then make up your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvZJTd6Op2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1425gCKyEo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-dOKbDb9k&feature=related

Checking yours wouldn’t hurt either.

I have had to delete several posts due to personal comments.  The posts are also becoming repetitive and not really adding any value to the topic.  I think forumties get the point of what is currently being said.

The conversation now needs to get back on topic looking at the merits of developing as outlined in the boot camps and other materials.

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i joined carly's course last year. With no assets at all, i find out that it still pretty hard to find profitable deal that over 20% and find people to join ventures with me as well. What their stuff telling me is &quot; dont give up… there is way of doing it… c that… carly can do it… u can do it..&quot;-_-… now, its more than half year passes already, and i still didnt find any deals.. at the beginning, i was so frustrated and worried about this course, and of course the money that i invest into this. What i wanna say is i really push my self out to it, but now still doesnt work out. I did push myself for networking, i really tried. maybe i just havent try hard enough, i have to change myself completely to do that. Some people that i met during the bootcamp telling that this course might not really suit me, it more for the people that at least have some assets. Maybe she think im too young.. Anyway….i will keep trying it as my life goal. At least for the 6k that i invest into this….. guys…i need your help as well…

" you can do it! you can do it!!!!!!"

U r right~ Hard to implement…. I did try it, and i will keep learning and doing it. At least i believe that not that many people in my age think about invest in property and actually start doing it.  so thx MIKE^^..i will not give up, and i will keep doing it!