Seminar – Mark Rolton

SeekOptions: You say this "very popular thread" and "tens of thousands of people in it"… if you think this is a thread singing Mark Rolton's praises, I'd suggest you go back and re read it. Have you done any options? Do you have any experience with Massland? Do you have verifiable written proof that Mark has $550Million worth of projects? Have you been paid by him? Are his staff experienced in doing deals having done many of them themselves? *pauses for breath*…oh forget it, I already know the answer…

Nicely asked MIchael 888. That testimonials link is just for people who've done the course and are all still fired up from the 2 day NLP assault, not got an option or made any money out of it. I want to meet and see and hear those that have got options, had Mark do a DA for them and onsell the property, and been paid out. Thats the kind of testimonials I want to see…

Re: Barry Pickering and Adayoun Capital Markets

For some years now I have been a keen observer of this and Jan Sommer’s site, I find it a great learning tool but working on computers all day at work have never got involved. After reading some posts seeking information on Barry Pickering yesterday I thought it was time to tell my story. I first met Barry and his wife Julie at one of the property expo’s in Sydney in 2002. His company Onsite Direct had a stand and he stood and talked through my potential first property investment with me for about ½ an hour. I stayed in touch and about 3 months later visited him in his office in Surfers Paradise, he reworked my finances to as he described it build the correct foundation, then assisted me to find a property. Over the last 7 years I have got to know Barry extremely well and in my current portfolio of 10, 7 were purchased and financed through his company. The properties I purchased through him have far out performed the 3 I purchased under my own steam from both a capital growth and rent return perspective. I know he sold Onsite Direct Group in January 2008 to a public Company and semi retired to Darwin, if I ring his mobile he answers and will talk through anything I’m thinking of doing, his opinions are logical and many cases experience based, after all he has over 70 properties in his own portfolio. A great example of this was in 2005, I rang him  for his opinion on a investment option I had sitting in front of me signed and ready to return to the investment adviser, a unit off the plan in Port Melbourne and a $200,000 equity release into Mary Street No 1 fund returning 15%. Barry explained how Mezzanine funding worked and that it was high risk related, he explained that his research into Westpoint was not good and he held grave concerns for how they operated, he talked me out of it, the rest is history shortly after they collapsed and I still had my $200,000 and deposit on the unit.

I guess that gave me 200,000 reasons plus to join and tell my story.

I didn’t know he was coaching in Darwin until I read this, he is the Kevin Sheedy or Wayne Bennett of property coaches.

It seems Barry is also being mixed into this posting about Mark Rolton, to my knowledge Barry has no dealings with him nor his seminars.

I hope this helps you with your enquiries into Barry Pickering

Good Luck in your future investing!!

So no one has found a deal and used Marks Company – Masslands to put through an options deal?

Has anyone DONE anything with the company?

If you have your welcome to post your reply here or PM me as I'm very interested in what you have to say.

Go back and read through this post and the people who've done his courses before. Look at "in the game" post on page one of this thread. You should have all the information you need then. If  not, start ringing developers acquisition managers that Mark says he knows, ring all the people he says he knows.. see if they know him, see if anyone would deal with him.. look at the projects he says he has going..can he prove any of it? Can he prove anything he says at all? I looked for years to find people who had done deals, been paid, in fact gotten any evidence at all of the half billion dollar company and porsche racing teams and floating on the ASX….still haven't found any proof of any of that.. anywhere.. especially within the property developing marketplace ….. bit strange that don't you think? Hey of course I could be wrong..

Before handing over a single sent to these guys make sure they are who they say they are, have done what they've said they've done, and can do what they say they can do. DO NOT sign any agreements with them until you've read it or your lawyer has. Spruikers love high pressure, they'll put things right next to them to come and sign so they can 'convince you' to sign without really understanding what it is that you've done. Don't fall for it. Get written proof of all claims made. Do not settle simply for "I don't have to prove anything to you" or "you have the wrong mindset to be here"…Bullshi*. If I'm going into a legally binding agreement and paying someone $30K + to get me results I expect and demand proof prior to handing over a single cent.
Get everything in a legally binding written form that holds them to their claims. See if they'll do it. If not, ask yourself why.
Good luck.

OK, i see a lot of controversy here!
i just finished Mark Roltons 3 dayer . 6ish grand for the course, it was GREAT!!! i found it very knowledgeable and handy.
we just singed up for his conclave course, $35 000 its in 3 weeks time here on the gold coast when we singed up there was 10 spots left so its definitely hot value. after the course i will re-inform you guys how it went, but so far it is looking good.
BTW i see some people are saying there is no hard evidence of his dealings ect. but in the conclave course on the 3rd day it is driving around in a mini-bus viewing local deals he and or massland have landed.

Matt007,

conserve your breath mate. 

Ohh…….now the sceptic in me surfaces from it's slumber.

mattbombers…………….first post today (after joining the forum today)……………..are you a representative of said property optioneer.

Only 10 spots left…….better hurry or we'll miss the bus.  

Why not ask for a list of his developments up front so you may do your own diligence. That way you'll be prepared and have plenty of questions to ask on the scenic tour…………and make sure you get your thirty-five grand's worth.

If you are fair dinkum and not associated with this company……..please post back after you've done the course and illuminate us here on what type of things you learnt 

Hey everyone,

I've got one seat left in the backseat of my car for my tour round to see some properties…..I'll point them out to you as we drive! Yeah they are all mine!

This doesn't seem like the best way to spend upwards of 30k. I'm all for education and spending money on investment…but geez!

A fool and his money are soon parted

DWolfe

Hey Mrs P,

If you search this site for Carly Crutchfield you will get ALOT of good reviews most members seem to be happy with what she offers
The worry is that most of the threads on Mark Rolton do not paint a good picture.

Hope it helps

Hi everyone thanks for all you posts, they have revealed a wealth of knowledge. I have been looking into Mark Rolton’s course and Rick Ottons stuff but have not made the final leap and actually committed to these seminars. I would love to actually sit down / meet with anyone in Melbourne who have used options or are currently using options. If anyone can give me contact details it would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone knows of a good lawyer or solicitor who specialises with options and could supply me with their details it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Quinn