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  • Profile photo of nuinvestornuinvestor
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    Hi all,
    I'm new to property investing.  Due to FIRB restrictions, I can only buy brand new residential property or land for investment purposes.  Please let me know what would be the best approach to take in my situation?  I faced a situation where a vendor wanted me to lose 5% of the property price if i do not get approval from FIRB.  Though the FIRB is a straight-forward process, there are no gaurantees.  It is getting really hard to convince vendors as well as agents to agree to a FIRB clause and a finance clause ( my finance broker told me it would take less than 2 weeks from FIRB approval to get approved for a loan if I get the pre-approval in the mean time).  How would someone with experience handle such situations?

    Thanks
    Sam

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    Hi, You can buy from someone with a new sub-division to sell. I broached the idea to a few people overseas when I started my sub-division project but I had enough funding & we couldn't decide on immediate contracts so the whole project is still in my sole ownership.

    The houses have gone up from $285000 to $320000 so I'm no longer selling. I don't actually gain much because I pay the holding costs. My margin still remains the same.

    I have another project starting (council already approved the sub-division) but the price has again gone up because of the increase in property prices & building & land costs. I'm in consolidation & will not be selling.

    Here in Adelaide, you can buy new house & land packages that are quite solid investments.

    Again, as always, we can't see around the corner as to whether prices will up or go down.

    If you think I can help, send me an e-mail,

    Good luck,
    Kum Yin

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    Hi Sam,

    I understand why some vendors are not happy to insert finance clauses and I guess the FIRB approval clause also increases the degree of uncertainty. Having purchased using finance clauses, I also consider inserting finance clauses on a sale if necessary to get over the line. For me, the amount of time alllowed for such a clause is the consideration. Do you know the time it would take to get approval from the FIRB?  I am surprised at the 5% penalty for not getting approval during a conditional period. If you do pull out of a contract during this time (finance, building inspecting etc) then there is a penalty which is 0.025% (correct me someone if I am incorrect – and this is also NSW). This sometimes just needs to be called the cost of buisness and due diligence.

    I tried to send you an email but there isnt a contact. I am currently building duplexes in a resource town would not have a problem with finance and FIRB clauses. Shoot me an email if you would like further information. [email protected]

    Kind Regards
    Tammy

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    Hey Guys,

    Excuse my ingnorance and lack of knowledge here, but what is the FIRB clause you guys are talking about

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    FIRB = Foreign Investment Review Board

    Residential real estate means all Australian urban land other than commercial properties (that is offices, factories, warehouses, restaurants, shops). Acquisitions of 'hobby farms' and 'rural residential' blocks by foreign interests are included in the residential real estate category.

    Foreign purchasers intending to acquire real estate in Australia must seek prior approval from the Government through the Foreign Investment Review Board unless specifically exempted by the Foreign Acquisitions and Takeovers Regulations.

    Exemptions include:

    • acquisitions by Australian citizens resident abroad;
    • acquisitions of property zoned residential by foreign nationals who hold permanent resident visas or hold, or who are eligible to hold, a 'special category visa' (eg a New Zealand citizen); and
    • foreign persons purchasing, as joint tenants, with their Australian citizen spouse property that is zoned residential.

    Under the Act, a foreign person is:

    • a natural person not ordinarily resident in Australia;
    • a corporation in which a natural person not ordinarily resident in Australia or a foreign corporation holds a controlling interest (that is, a holding of 15 percent or more);
    • a corporation in which 2 or more persons, each of whom is either a natural person not ordinarily resident in Australia or a foreign corporation, hold an aggregate controlling interest (that is, a total holding of 40 percent or more);
    • the trustee of a trust estate in which a natural person not ordinarily resident in Australia or a foreign corporation holds a substantial interest; or
    • the trustee of a trust estate in which 2 or more persons, each of whom is either a natural person not ordinarily resident in Australia or a foreign corporation, hold an aggregate substantial interest.

    A substantial foreign interest (ie, a controlling interest) occurs when a single foreigner (and any associates) has 15 per cent or more of the ownership or several foreigners (and any associates) have 40 per cent or more in aggregate of the ownership of any corporation, business or trust.

    The Government seeks to ensure that foreign investment in residential real estate increases the housing stock. The Government, therefore, seeks to channel foreign investment into activity that directly increases the supply of new housing (that is, new developments – house and land packages, home units, townhouses, etc) and brings benefits to the local building industry and their suppliers.

    The policy on developed residential real estate is negative. The effect is twofold. First, it helps reduce the possibility of excess demand building up in the existing housing market and secondly, it aims to encourage the supply of new dwellings, many of which would become available to Australian residents, either for purchase or rent, therefore maintaining greater stability of house prices and the affordability of housing for Australians.

    Hope this helps.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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