- Charlie MFS wrote:I am in Ipswich Qld and he is located at the Coast so maybe that could have a bearing on the price but all I know is he looks after me and everyone who I have referred to him that have needed his services.
Hi Sharlene, I live on the gold Coast & have an IP in Ipswich so I would LOVE your sparkies number if you don't mind sharing him.
We have had expensive lessons in the past but I guess we live & learn?? I now like to use word of mouth & proven experiences to choose our tradies.Cheers
Stella
crashy wrote:I read your first post again and it says nothing about setting up a webpage. All you did was whine and moan and accuse property managers and tradies of corruption, collusion and extortion.Most people here are smart enough to realise the forum has many many members who are tradies and they dont take too kindly to BASELESS accusations and downright lies from people who dont even have the decency of getting their facts straight.
Its simple…….if you dont like the price you are quoted, dont get the job done!
Just before I leave this topic, to the site admin : why isn't there a section in this forum to promote honest trades people, it should be simple enough to do. To those who were agitated by this topic bought to the open, have a good night.
ttman wrote:I don't know and DON'T CARE how many electricians and plumbers (or their relations) on this forum, I stand by my opinion that they charge far too much than they deserve. Tell me baseless accusations, a reverse cycle air-cond may cost you $500, the sparky will charge you $800 to install. How ridiculous is this ?Unfortunately as has been mentioned these are specialised trades, they need to be licensed trades and for the work they do if something was to go wrong they can cause major injury and or damage. I am a licensed builder here in Vic and i still have to use licensed plumbers and sparkys, they come with a certificate of compliance on all work done. If you think the price is to high then get another quote. But then again if you are going to be a tight arse and try and screw them on price or complain because they are trying to make a living then hey what can i say!!! Ask them questions on how they came up with the price eg: are they supplying fixtures??
Luke
Just curious TTman. What do you do for a living?
slum lord?
Tradies have to cover insurance such as workers comp, public liability and also petrol, bits of material, travel time, licenses, GST, taxes and a host of other things. You’re an idiot if you think we should produce under qualified tradesmen. The have been trying to clear out the cowboys for years as they do more damage then good.Every job is different and a number of things can affect the price.
Did you get other quotes or just the one (try the web for locals near the IP)?If it’s so easy and they make so much money why not become one?
Sounds like you want it done for nothing. There’s cheap tradies around, do your homework instead of having a rant.
I think you will find there is a reason Tradies charge hefty prices for silly little primary school jobs, As a Tradie myself there is nothing more annoying then traveling around the place to do a little bum job that makes you a few bucks when you could be working a full continuous day on a new house construction.
Unbeknown to you the service which is preformed wastes more time then just the few hours they are actually In your place doing the work, Then if they want to go do another job they have to waste an hour or so getting there and unpacking again, looking at what they need to do ect.
Most tradies who work for themselves I know off do not wish to work for any less then $50 minimum, After all many bosses are making upwards of $100/hr on housing/comercial construction
Ohh, I almost forgot to comment on what was said about passing off tradies after one year of apprenticeship, Apart from it being ridiculous, its irresponsible. I'm a self employed Plasterer and have been in the trade for 5 years, I'm still learning new things all the time.
I'm with masterREL
"If it’s so easy and they make so much money why not become one?"Its so easy to complain. the price is the price…
If your angry about how much tradies can change and inturn, how much money they are making….. try the other option and get your self a trade and earn all this money yourself.. The problem is, no one wants to get there hands dirty in this day and age.. its much easier to sit behind a computer all day.
Travel, quote, travel
travel, unpack, complete task, pack up, travel…… in addition the material price. The job might take 5 mins and $20 worth of material but theres so much more involved… oh, and the customers attitude.. hehehe
I cant get over the fact you think tradesmen are over paid. They work bloody hard and good ones are hard to find. When you do find one they are worth the dollars they ask. Like has been mentioned, there is a huge shortage of tradies. Try telling a young kid that he needs to earn bugger all for a 4 yr apprenticeship then get say $35k a yr after he is qualified. This HAS been the case in the past. However now we can get say (a good trady) $70-$100K a yr plus car plus super and hey it starts to become more appealing to the kids to get into a trade. And sorry but yes the client needs to pay for this. You would be the 1st to complain if your cheap trady was doing a crap job for $35/hr yet you still complain if a good one does a good job at say $70-80/hr. LIke most things, you get what you pay for. You dont mind paying thousands for a lawyer ( and I have no probs with what they charge) to arrange some paperwork for you but you cant see how a FULLY QUALIFIED trady can ask to be paid reasonable money to keep your IP functioning for you.
And as for the air con costing $500 and $800 to put in well thats your fault for buying a bloody $500 a/c and thinking it will last. Like I said, you get what you pay for. A/C install including electrics will cost between (as a rule) $600-$800 now days. And im sure you think we make a fortune charging these prices but you have no idea how much copper for example has risen in price lately. And all your sparky's cables are full of copper so im sure you can work it out. Tradies have cars to run, people to pay, insurance etc, just like lawyers etc have offices to pay for and staff to pay for.
Like has been mentioned just because the guy is only there 30min he may have spent an hr or 2 picking up parts etc. Sorry but time is money. If its that easy buddy do it yourself.
Iv watched and read this site for a few yrs now and have been trying to learn all I can. I find it a great site and full of good threads etc (usually). Its a shame my 1st post had to be against this kind of negative talk against some people just trying to earn a $.
cheers Jayro
The real problem is that for the last 15 years University has been sprouted as the best thing since sliced bread while our technical schools were closed down and the government did nothing to provide incentives for apprenticeships for the last 15 years.
Now that there is a massive shortage of skilled trade people the government has just started to re-open technical schools and encourge over forty year old to do apprenticeships in trades. Also a lot of the already skilled tradespeople will be retiring soon! duckster
True comments duckster! Also just for the record I don't think I'd like to fix anyone's leaking toilet for under $1000. Yucko!Also, the huge employers are not taking in new apprentices by the 1000's every year like they did 20+ years ago.
Gees some ppl need to lighten up. The fact is that there ARE disreputable tradespeople as in other industries. I'm all for a site that recommends good work for reasonable rates. Speaking of quality, my son and I saw a doctor today (not our usual cos he was booked out) and he saw us both in 5mins. A quick look at the infection in my son's ear, and a quick listen to my back , scripts thrust in my hand and we were out the door. He bulk billed so no complaints from me but I wouldn't go to him for anything serious.
I'm certainly glad that my houses are close enough to do those little odd jobs myself. I don't mind changing the washers if it means i can check out the property at any time. Certainly the cost of having a qualified tradey has encouraged me to reconsider what jobs I might be able to tackle. And I've done it all. Ive replaced toilets and replaced a single bowl kitchen sink with a double. Ive tiled and gyprocked and done far too much painting. Just recently I replaced the fluoro fitting in my kitchen . yeah yeah i know it's illegal to do my own electrics but gees let's all sing..".the green bones connected to the………green hole!….the black bone's connected to the…….black hole!….the red ..ect."
I can certainly see why a tradey would want to payment for travel time to just change a washer. I don't think anyone here is complaining about reputable tradespeople.
Yeah – let's lighten up a bit….I know – time for a top story (an absolute riot – true – and please don't those skilled tradespeople take offense)
A few years back a guy I knew got an electician (qualified) friend of his to come around and fit some naffy new lights and a couple of power points into his sons room. Comes and goes, and no apparent drama. Next day his boy asks him 'how come you moved my big Kenworth poster dad?' Dad pleads ignorance so they both go into the bedroom, and his son points out it is now on the opposite wall, and about a foot lower. So………they 'un blue-tack' it from the wall to move it back, and lo and behold found three fair size holes in the wall behind it !!!! Must havebeen where he was looking for the wires in the wall or something. I kid you not. H just covered it up with the poster and off!
Pretty funny I thought.
We all make mistakes but!r1trackday wrote:I'm with masterREL
"If it’s so easy and they make so much money why not become one?"Its so easy to complain. the price is the price…
If your angry about how much tradies can change and inturn, how much money they are making….. try the other option and get your self a trade and earn all this money yourself.. The problem is, no one wants to get there hands dirty in this day and age.. its much easier to sit behind a computer all day.
Travel, quote, travel
travel, unpack, complete task, pack up, travel…… in addition the material price. The job might take 5 mins and $20 worth of material but theres so much more involved… oh, and the customers attitude.. heheheAre we back on the customer's attitude AGAIN? I thought we had a gutful of that a few weeks ago with you and crashy.
Customer attitude is an external factor and should not have an influence on your professionalism in your job.
I worked in retail for 30 years, and if I had let the customers' crappy attitudes dictate how well I worked, I would have had a very unsuccessful business.L.A Aussie wrote:Are we back on the customer's attitude AGAIN? I thought we had a gutful of that a few weeks ago with you and crashy.
Customer attitude is an external factor and should not have an influence on your professionalism in your job.
I worked in retail for 30 years, and if I had let the customers' crappy attitudes dictate how well I worked, I would have had a very unsuccessful business.No it dicates how much tradies will charge you.If it looks like you are going to be a pain in the butt ,then the price will be high.
Forgot to add http://www.bangitup.com.au/ . This site has trades that are recommended by people across Australia.
This is my very LAST post on this thread. The heading of the thread may be a bit ambigious. What I am absolutely sick of are dishonest tradies. To see where I am coming from, on a regular basis I cop unreasonable bills for either "emergency repairs" or for out of town IP repairs. I have nothing against honest trades people making a honest living, what cheesed me off is some unscrupulous tradies seize the opportunity to charge ridiculous sum of money.
p.s. it doesn't mean the trade cost can't be lower.ttman,
That would be handy if you are able to compile some resonable prices on certain jobs . I would definitely benefit from this, as I'm planning to reno my place and also feel that without experience and price knowledge I will be over charged. I know its simply just calling around.
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