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  • Profile photo of dragon20dragon20
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    Hi all just thought id introduce my self to the forum

    I am 23… Currently working full time in the IT sector and completing my MBA. Hopefully finish in 2008 YAY!

    I was always looking to invest into property, but meeting a friend’s dad (property investor in Brisbane) and this pretty much sky rocketed my interests.

    Apart from working and studying, I have been spending some of my spare time reading a couple of books and subscribed to property investor mag.

    I am starting to understand or more or less building my own strategy to investing.

    But I have a few questions hopefully some people can answer….

    My biggest question in – when starting to look at property:

    How do I know where to buy? – From doing all my research I am understanding the major things that contribute to growth and it pretty much is all about supply vs demand..

    What I really want to ask is where do you guys get your data from when research a suburb or area you are going to buy? And what kind of data do you look for?

    It’s easy to buy a property… But buying it strategically with a plan and looking for reasons that could predetermine growth is another kettle of fish :)

    But I just thought id ask the question :)

    At the moment my deposit is ready and I will start looking around.

    When you start looking to you deal with real estate agents a lot….? or do you do your preliminary research and take it from there? or do you get real-estate agents calling you all the time telling you about property x and property y.

    I am thinking as a first property I would buy locally in some of the surrounding areas I know and then branch out from there?

    or should I take a punt from my research on areas I think will have some significant growth and buy there.

    If you could provide me with any advice, even any material or links I would much appreciate it

    Thank you

    Nick

    Profile photo of L.A AussieL.A Aussie
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    Congratulations on deciding to invest.

    There are many options, strategies, markets and more importantly; your goals. Are you looking for cap growth only or are you after cashflow as well? They don’t always go together, but the more experience you have, the better you will get at combining the two.

    Once you know what you want the areas will start to appear before you as to where to buy, what type of property to buy – are you looking to reno, subdivide, do you want to buy newer, or maybe units or townhouses?

    Gathering data and doing research can be done a number of ways;
    Forums like this,
    Investment magazines and newspapers (treat printed materials with a healthy scepticism as they have agendas).
    Talk to lots of agents in your target areas (treat as above).
    Visit the area by foot, car, internet and study things like rental returns, vacancy rates, past sales figures.
    Talk to local councils, look for suburb profiles – some are free on the internet, ABS or you can pay for info from Residex and sites similar to this.

    The due diligence part takes a lot of time, but is worth it when you find the deal.

    Establishing a criteria for you will help you save time when selecting potential properties; if the property doesn’t fit the criteria after a few basic checks you move on to the next one. Without this, or some sort of selection system, you will find you will be looking aimlessly and never be able to make a decision.

    Cheers,
    Marc.
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    “we get sent lemons; it’s up to us to make lemonade”

    Profile photo of dragon20dragon20
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    Marc,

    Thanks a lot for your reply.

    I am defiantly looking for Capital growth to begin with. I don’t have a lot of time for renos or others as i am working to develop my career for now, so mainly looking for property in good location and long term commitment, just build of capital growth and accumulate more and more is the plan :)

    Could you give me a bit more information on the due diligence part? I have had a few people mention this?

    Thanks a lot for your feedback

    Much appreciated

    Profile photo of L.A AussieL.A Aussie
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    Due Diligence is the part where you have to get into checking out all the aspects of your proposed investment. it involves lots of time in the car, on foot, on the internet, on the phone to agents, councils etc. Not a lot of fun, but necessary to make the investment a success. You are trying to find out the truth about the area, the property, the dangers pros and cons.

    Before you can start you need to establish your own criteria for what makes a good investment. Some people only want cap growth; some only cashflow; some both.

    The cap growth investor would be looking at things like property prices – can they buy below market to increase equity instantly? Is the population increasing in the area which will create more demand? Is the property supply limited which further fuels the demand? What are the employment factors like- is there good opportunity for long-term employment? Can the property be improved/subdivided/renovated to add value? Are there plans by council or local/state govt to improve infrastructure such as schools etc?

    The cashflow investor wants to know about rents – is there good demand? Are the returns good enough? Is there good depreciation for better tax claims? Can they buy under market to improve returns? Finance/management/holding costs are important. Can you add value to increase rents?

    The cashflow/cap growth investor wants to know about all of the above and combine all things or many of the factors before deciding on a purchase.

    Cheers,
    Marc.
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    “we get sent lemons; it’s up to us to make lemonade”

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    Hey Nick,
    I have found Margaret Lomas books invaluable when purchasing. There is one called pocket guide to positive cash flow investing, which has step by step notes on the buying/searching process and what questions to ask. I think you can buy them on her website destiny.net.au. Her strategy is pos cash flow and cap growth.
    happy reading

    TD

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    Thanks a lot will check this book out and see how i go much apprecaited :)

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