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  • Profile photo of small_timesmall_time
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    @small_time
    Join Date: 2007
    Post Count: 8

    I am trying to understand if I have accounted for all costs in some calculations. I am not in a position to buy yet but just crunching some numbers to get a feel for it all. I was hoping to lay out an example and get feedback as to if it all is covered.

    example:

    Property cost : $80,000
    Closing costs (6% of prop value) : $4,800

    Total Required : $84,800

    Deposit : $20,000

    Loan Required : $64,800

    Assume 7.5% interest, P and I loan over 30 yrs.

    Loan Repayments = $105.30 per week, $5,475 per year.

    Rent = $110 per week.

    Yearly rent (allowing 4 weeks vacancy) = $5,280

    Rental Manager commision (Assume 8%) = $422.40

    Expenses (Assume 20% of rental, as advised in another post here.) = $1056

    Usable Rent = 5280 – 422.40 – 1056 = $3801.60

    Repayments = $5,475 per year.
    Usable Rent = $3801.60 per year

    Cash Flow = -$1673.40

    Has everything been accounted for here? I am not concerned by actual numbers in regards to if it is a good deal. Rather I just wanted to understand if all the costs have been accounted for. This does not take tax into account at all, that is the next step for me to learn about.[cap]

    Mainly I am a bit confused by what all the expenses will be that cut into the rent. As I see it there are the following

    Rates
    Insurance
    Repairs & maintanence
    Advertising (will rental managers fee cover this?)

    Is there anything else to consider, and is 20% of rental income a good number to use?

    Thanks

    Profile photo of AmandaBSAmandaBS
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    @amandabs
    Join Date: 2005
    Post Count: 549

    Hi Small-time,

    Well done for taking the time to calculate and understand the figures in advance.
    I notice you’ve used 6% Closing costs for the deal, and I’m not sure what these are, but you should be allowing for Stamp Duty on the property, legal fees, stamp duty on the mortgage, loan application fees, and building & pest inspections.

    We generally allow 30% instead of 20% of the rent to cover overhead expenses such as rates, insurance etc. Other costs you can claim are:

    Advertising
    Body Corporate fees
    Cleaning
    Council Rates
    Gardening
    Insurance
    Interest
    Land tax
    Legal fees relating to tenants
    Pest Control
    Property Management fees
    Motor vehicle per km
    Repairs and maintenance
    Stationery, phone and postage
    Travel and accommodation
    Decline in value (Your Accountant will calculate this)

    The Tax Office have a 2006 Rental Property guide that you can download, here’s the link: http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/NAT1729-06.pdf

    You may also find many of the free downloads from our site of help also.

    Happy investing,

    AmandaBS
    http://www.propertydivas.com.au
    FREE online Property Resources

    “It is better to be inconspicuously wealthy, than to be ostentatiously poor…”

    Profile photo of crjcrj
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    @crj
    Join Date: 2004
    Post Count: 618

    I’d second AmandaBS that my experience indicates expenses are closer to 30% than 20%. I also like to have a small buffer to cover the cost of replacing a stove etc if necessary

    Profile photo of bridgebuffbridgebuff
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    @bridgebuff
    Join Date: 2006
    Post Count: 189

    Other fees to consider:

    -Letting Fee (normally charged on top of the management fee)
    -PM often also charge extra for postage, advertising, inspections, etc.
    -Emergency Service Levy
    -Vacancy Rate (allow 2-6 weeks per year)
    – Rise in interest costs (consider the effect of 2% rate increases)

    In regards to the tax Steve warns to include that in calculations to decide if property is cf+. He just takes it as a bonus if available.

    Good Luck

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