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    @viralk
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    Hello everyone, I have got a house with 1822 sqaure meters land in Dalby (Qld).

    I have got quote from surveyor to subdivide that into two seperate residential block. One would be 800 squares with existing house and the other would be 1000 square.

    I am doing this for the first time so I need to understand few things.

    – why do I have to speak to solicitor for? if i am paying fees to surveyor?
    – do I need to get sewerate, water and driveway done before I can sell the land seperately?
    – How much does this cost or where can i find out ?

    I am very much excited but nervous, confused and in need of someone help here, please.

    Regards
    viral

    Viral Kanabar
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    Hi all

    Why 2 blocks? with that size land I would go 3.

    Celeste

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    Subdividing is when a piece of land is split into two or more pieces (ie separate lots). The process is controlled by the local Council. Planning codes and procedures vary significantly between Councils and also between States and Territories, as do the relevant fees and charges.

    Factors to examine when considering a Subdivision
    • Local town planning regulations
    • Land zoning restrictions
    • Minimum size of lots
    • Access to water and sewerage services
    • Setback requirements
    • Minimum building envelopes
    • Parks and open space
    • Easements
    • Vehicle access including Council refuse collection
    • Storm water management
    • Increased noise from new development
    • Environmental and heritage issues

    Hidden Costs
    A subdivision can take several months (and sometimes even years) to complete so you must factor in your holding costs such as:
    • Interest
    • Rates
    • Land maintenance – eg slashing and weed control

    Dividing the land
    Before you rush out and build a new dividing fence in your backyard, you should first consult your local Council for specific guidelines and costings, as it is imperative that the property is divided correctly. Any errors at this stage will cause major problems further down the track.

    The Process
    Most Councils require a Development/Planning Application to be lodged, together with details and drawings of your proposal. A Town Planner or Surveyor can assist you with this process, and they may also be able to give advice regarding conditions that the Council is likely to require.

    Before lodgement of the Application, you can ask the Council for a “Pre lodgement” meeting to discuss your subdivision and determine what issues will need to be addressed in the Application.

    When the Council receives your application, they may require you to erect a notice board for public viewing. The purpose of the board is to alert the public of the proposal by providing details of the subdivision. The Council may also write to the owners of the residents of the neighbouring properties advising of your intentions. I’d suggest that you contact the Council to find out what procedures your local Council uses.

    Additional information the Council may require
    Water and sewerage:
    •Are existing services available?
    •Can the existing infrastructure cope with increased use or need upgrading?
    •Is permission required from neighbours to access property?
    Storm Water
    •How will storm water run off be managed?
    •Is a drainage pit required?
    •Are tanks required to regulate the flow of storm water?
    Noise
    •Will existing main road traffic noise affect the subdivision?
    •If so, how will this be reduced? (Fences and/or earthworks)
    Soil Conditions
    •Do the soil conditions (eg.sand, clay) impact on road and footpath design?
    Other issues
    •Footpath
    •Lighting
    •Signage

    Approval of the Development Application
    The approval process for your Application may take several months depending on the complexity and size of the subdivision.

    You will then be issued with a conditional approval covering topics such as:
    •Developer to supply a plan of survey and mark land with survey pegs
    •Road reserve
    •Easements over stormwater, water and sewage mains
    •Requirement that storm water pipes be designed to cope with a “1 in 100 year” event.
    •Dust control
    • Hours of permitted work (usually Mon – Sat 6:30am to 6:30pm)
    • Headwork contributions to be paid by Developer
    – Open space (parks)
    – Social infrastructure
    – Road infrastructure
    – Water infrastructure
    – Sewerage infrastructure
    – Street scape contribution
    •Disposal of cleared vegetation
    •Connection fees to live sewer mains
    •Road (width, pavement depth, footpaths, kerb & channel, ramp profiles)
    •Street lighting
    •Fire Extinguisher (Battle axe blocks)
    •Underground electricity and phone
    •Erosion and silt management
    •Maintenance period of roads
    •Retaining walls
    •Fire ant inspections
    •Portable long service leave for Building & Construction Industry

    If you are not satisfied with the Council’s decision, you may apply for a review.

    Operational Works
    Before work can begin, you will need to engage the services of a Civil Engineer to design and draw the sewer, water, road, footpaths and any other Council requirements.

    This is a separate application usually referred to as “Operational Works” and attracts additional fees and charges.

    Final Stage
    All civil work will require Council and Engineering certification. When the subdivision has been completed to the satisfaction of the Council, you can then apply to register each separate title deed through a Solicitor.

    .
    Hope this helps!

    Amanda
    “It is better to be inconspicuously wealthy, than to be ostentatiously poor…”

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    Thanks, it has got sewerage in the middle so I may not be able to do three. But this is my understanding. Any comments would be appreciated.

    regards
    viral

    Viral Kanabar
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    Great Comments Amanda and much appreciate your detailed response. It seems to be very complicated but interesting.

    I will speak to Town Planner about this over the phone since i am in Sydney and property is in Dalby (queensland).

    I think that’s the first starting point.

    Thanks once again. Viral

    Viral Kanabar
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    Hi all

    Great info Amanda, I have printed it out and will read it when the 5yr old is in bed.

    I haven’t gone down this track yet, I have started researching it and trying to figure out the Rcodes, so I will be able to spot a potental property and the likely hood of all the approvals.

    I have so many questions that when I try to think of what to ask I can’t.
    one just poped into my head.
    I would like to know the differences / variations between strata / subdivision not the legal side (title side) but the council requirements and land requirements. Also, do you need council approval to divide a house up to rent rooms individually ie student housing oh no there all coming out now. think I better stop or I will be here all night.

    I should be planning my next reno I start in 3 weeks.

    Celeste

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