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  • Profile photo of salsachinitasalsachinita
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    We are in the process of learning & fine-tuning our strategy, so everything is hypothetic for now [blush2]………….

    While value adding via renovation or redecoration seems fairly straight forward, there has to be a fine line between value adding & over-capitalising.

    I’m trying to come up with a relatively simple rule-of-thumb, as I’ve heard somewhere that a renovation of kitchen/bathroom should NOT exceede 10% of the total value of your property….? So does that mean you should aim at spending less than $30k on a property valued at $300k…? Is the 10% a sum of both kitchen AND bathroom, or can you aim at spending up to $30k EACH…?

    For the life of me, I cannot recall where I got this percentage from. Has anyone here ever heard of it, or ever used it…?

    Is there any other rules-of-thumb that might be useful? DOs & DON’Ts….?

    Any input or advice would be much appreciated.

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    Not sure about your “rule of thumb”.
    I have just finished a Reno for under 10K.
    However, I did only pay 180K for the property – but it is now valued at 255K (finished 4 weeks after settlement and had 8 weeks access prior to settlement).
    One thing I learnt the hard way was that the trades were hard to find and pin down to a time frame and many wanted hourly rates, while others didn’t even turn up.
    I was renovating in the country area and understood that trades were scarce to begin with.
    Good luck and I hope you enjoy the experience – I did.
    I made mistakes along the way – but I have learnt a great deal.

    Profile photo of salsachinitasalsachinita
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    Thankyou for the reply, allana..!!!

    Anyone else got anything else to add?

    We went to a local meeting (run by troy&bec) a couple of weeks ago. They have generously shared a couple of recent houses they have done (thanks, guys [inlove]…!!)………I wonder if they had any sort of ‘rule of thumb’ figure-wise..?

    When doing the “Buy-Reno-Sell”, does anyone use a % or ratio to the purchase value when setting a budget? Or is it a case-by-case thing….?

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    Hi all

    Buy/reno/sell is my game, I do 1 bed aprtments. I donot have a rule of thumb.

    It is project by project, though, I did do a standard budget for a 1bed reno. ie Kitchen/ bath/bed/lounge. which on my 1st one I was under.

    I use this bench mark budget when I do my costings on properties that i’m looking at to buy and when I buy I modify it to suit the new one.

    The modifications depends on how much I paid for it and how much I think I can sell it for and what profit I want (I work on a minimium profit margin when assessing new properties.

    I do not get quotes (they are usually marked up for worst case).
    though I have an apartment to do march/april next year that needs new lines ran for either elect or gas (the kitchen has never had a stove/oven? and its 40 odd yrs old, it has stainless steel benchs and a microwave?) I will get quotes, but not from my trady (as he will charge me this) to work out what way to go.

    I have formulars number of hrs x hourly rate for my budget.

    I do all the work my self except plumb/elec.

    So, I would suggest you work out the amount you could get when you sell after a reno – cost to buy/sell (puchase/stamp duty etc) – an amount you would like in hand = a rough amount for your reno.

    My 1st went like this sell 205-210k – purchase/selling costs 190k – profit 5 – 10k = reno 10k, I went for 7k. The property I was looking at was 180k. I brought it.

    I based it on private sale, (tried this, do not like it) when I had finished, the market was dictated a selling price of 225k. I ended up going through an agent and got 240k (a record for the area, apparently I do really good reno’s) – RAE fee 9600.00

    I sold for 240k = profit approx 34k

    I buy properties around 200k my reno budget is approx 7-10k 3.5-4% and 10% entry and exit fees/ rates / strata fees etc.

    The profit amount depends on what your plan is, mine was to cover the wages I was earning working part time, so my profit margin was around 5-10k per property, so I could earn 20-30k per year.
    I plan quick turn arounds and more time at home doing the parent at school stuff etc and less stress from bosses.

    that’s my method, I would like to know how others work it out also.

    celeste

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