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  • Profile photo of mcdeyessmcdeyess
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    Greetings all,
    The general feeling I get from reading these forums is that negative gearing is the great evil in property investing. I haven’t read Steve’s book but have listened to fast track and he seems to have built his portfolio through positive geared property.

    However for someone like myself who is in a high tax bracket I find it extremely advantageous to have a negatively geared property to get some deduction.

    Obviously if I was to live off my investments I would want them to be positively geared. Even with my income it would be nice to have some positively geared property – a mixed portfolio if you will. My belief has always been if you are paying more tax you are earning more money and that is never a bad thing. I also believe paying tax is an important responsibility in our society.

    Obviously I am largely ignoring various company/trust structures that can be created to gain further tax benefits.

    I guess my question is why this forum seems to generally view negative gearing as the great evil?

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    The cashflow people tend to dislike negative gearing as they say you are making a loss in the hope of making a capital gain later. There is no guarrantee the gain will come (just as there is no guarrantee the sun will come up tomorrow morning :-))

    Ideally it would be great to have positive gearing and high growth, but unfortunately it doesn’t always happen like that. So high growth property is usually negative geared.

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    Hi Mcdeyess,

    Anti NG’ers will use the ‘hope’ of CG as being one of the reasons why NG is not a surefire way to successful investment for the reasons Terry mentions.

    I tend to disagree as such risks can be mitigated by good research and careful management.

    I would also add that NG (per se) needn’t confine you to your 9 – 5 job for the rest of your life. By way of example my wife and I have equity of $1m+ and have set up structures and process along the lines of my comment in this thread https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic/24725.html which provides us with options.

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    Profile photo of mcdeyessmcdeyess
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    Thanks for the feedback guys.

    It has made things a little clearer in my head with regards to the attidude to NG in this forum.

    For my own purposes I have been happy making some CG, developing some equity and having taxation advantages. I really only bought a house initially as the prices just seemed to keep rising and I was worried if I didn’t jump in I would never be able to afford a house. I am glad I did as it gives me more options now as a more informed investor.

    I read your post Derek and found it interesting and informative. There are some options there that I was already looking at and some new concepts to investigate. Much apprecieated.

    Cheers,
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