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  • Profile photo of noddiesnoddies
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    Hi All,[biggrin]

    From the Financial Standard today.

    Small business mums and dads will be the worst affected by the new bankruptcy rule that allows bankruptcy trustees to take away the family home even if only one spouse goes bankrupt, regardless of who paid what for the property.

    Geoff McDonald, barrister and partner of Hall Chadwick Chartered Accountants, highlighted that a High Court decision in March and amendments to the Bankruptcy Act which came into effect 31 May will allow the liquidator to recoup money through the family home, regardless of whose name the property is under if the asset was acquired during the marriage.

    “This could be a category 10 storm in bankruptcy legislation, and it could cause monumental damage throughout the small business community,” he said. Statistics show that 9 out of 10 small businesses go bankrupt in the first three years of their operation.

    “Like the bankruptcy law changes known as the ‘Skase Amendments’ and the ‘Bond Amendments’, these changes result from a knee jerk reaction by the government to ‘public opinion’. It really is disappointing to see this lack of foresight and policy contradiction,” he added.

    On the upside, the new rules mean that bankrupt individuals can no longer exploit the legislative loophole whereby transferring their property ownership to their partner can protect that asset from future creditors. However, small business mum and dads who go under for genuine business reasons could find themselves out on the streets.

    The recent High Court ruling effectively said that all husbands and wives own properties jointly and equally regardless of how much each contributed to paying them off. “Where a husband and wife purchase a matrimonial home, each contributing to the purchase price and where title is taken in the name of one of them, it may be inferred that it was intended that each of the spouses should have a one-half interest in the property, regardless of the amounts contributed by them,” the ruling stated.

    McDonald suggested businesses can safeguard themselves against this ruling by owning the property under a family trust. But that route comes at a cost by way of extra taxes when buying and selling the property.

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    This is yet another reason to find out about different structuring options. Family trusts are not the only way to go.

    Thanks Noddies

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    A possible solution is not to get married, and not to sleep with your ‘spouse’!

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    Add to that not living with them either Terry.

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    Hi

    Just a thought…. what if the house is owned tenants in common not as joint tenants and the tenants in common just happen to be married????[blink]

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    I believe that the family law courts can look through any structuring, and see it as joint ownership.

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    They will struggle to break through a Trust with a corporate trustee… as it is NOT a person … it is a totally different entity and has different controls…. look at all the rip off merchants and how they have materminded thier escape plan…. ASIC is powerless as they do not do anything to help the poor ole community citizen… they can’t even retrive any lost funds.
    Also an overstamped property will also make it difficult to take the property as it has more debt than value… so any legal searches will show no asset worth a greain of salt … and all preening for gold at the end of the rainbow will be short lived . [blush2][oink]

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    Kiwi, I beleive the Family Law Court can do this. I think I have a paper on family law and trusts which I can send you if you want. From memory there was one case where the man had his dad as trustee, and the FLC attacked the structure.

    But, just because they can, doesn’t mean they will.

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    Damn there goes my new GSXR 1000 – all to pay for my Trusts!

    Oh well I guess the scooter will have to suffice for a touch longer…

    I have to ask now – Would it be prudent if you realised you were going to go Bankrupt (as unethical as this suggestion may be seen to be) to divorce your wife (you need a lot of faith in this) and remain living in the same house (in separate rooms of course)? Would this then shield the “Family Assett” from the judgements and Repo’s?

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    Hi Stu

    Or should I call you Allan Bond (I think that is what he did).
    The courts can unwind these type of situations if you are insolvent before the change up to 5 years in the past.

    The only way to get arroung this would be to transfer the asset to an unrelated entity offshore, but this brings up the spotlight on yourself.
    Probably jail time in this senerao but you possibly keep the asset.

    Kiwi

    Terry is correct. In Aus the family law courts have the power to look through any structure.

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    I think many people get divorced just before going bankrupt. It may be due to the stess invovled with losing everything, but there are also a lot of people out there who do so for asset protection reasons.

    I remember a few years ago when many barristers were declaring themselves bankrupt to avoid paying taxes, many had all their assets in the wifes names and got divorced for added protection.

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    Here is an interesting case.
    The Trustees of the Property of John Daniel Cummins, A Bankrupt v Cummins [2006] HCA 6

    A barrister transferred his half of the house to his wife in 1987, he became bankrupt in 2000. The bankruptcy trustee succeeded in undoing this transaction.

    see: http://www.tresscox.com.au/resources/resource.asp?id=120

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