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    After what seems like months I have finally gotten a seller to not only drop his listed price on his property from $650k to $575k and he is also prepared to vendor finance the property to me for $2000 per mth for 5 years with interest of 7.0%. Upfront deposit of $15k.

    The 2 BR apartment has 2 Bathrooms, 2 separate living areas and 2 car parks (17 squares approx). Apartment is located in Southbank, fringe of Melbourne CBD.

    I’m thinking of either wrapping this property for $650k or it can be an investment property for someone who would like to have an apartment and not have a liability associated with the property. Rental for this property is estimated at $550 per week.

    As I have a bunch of other wrap properties does anybody feel like joint venturing with me if so call me on 0414 584 320 or email me?
    Kaz

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    Isn’t 4.4% gross yield (on $650k):
    a) rather unappealingly low?
    b) very optimistic?
    There are plenty of deluxe 2b apartments in Southbank available for $350 – $450pw fully furnished with balcony and city views. Additionally, the Melbourne apartment market is still in massive oversupply. My measure of this is the number of ‘serviced apartments’ I have to choose from when I’m working in the city… believe me, there are a lot.

    Does your ‘bunch of other properties’ contain any better deals? I’m not having a go, and I do in fact intend to purchase a city apartment within the next few years.

    Cheers, F.[cowboy2]

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    Hi Foundation,

    The gross yield may not be that high but you’re going into the transaction with only $15000 deposit which is very low for an apartment (only 2.6% of purchase price). Plus the benefit of not having a bank liability shown on your books for the next 5 years which could assist on future serviceabilty if you intend to keep expanding your portfolio.

    The apartment is classified as a mini penthouse with split levels (2 storeys) so it’s not really a standard 2 BR apartment. It also has city and bay views and is on the 22nd floor with a balcony included. The $550 rental was the actual amount paid by the last tenant of this apartment.

    Kaz

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    I’m with foundation on this one Kaz, no matter what the entry point is or exposure how can you say this is a good INVESTMENT.

    I would emagine that the body corp fees will be high being on the 22nd floor and the short fall would be too low for a low income earner with this very negative geared INVESTMENT – have you done an out of pocket expenses for a 60k income earner???

    D

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    HI Wealth4 life

    How do you define a good investment? The opportunity of being able to buy a property without a bank loan may be good for one person – in the end it all depends on one’s situation. If I could invest with using as little of my cash as possible I deem that a great opportunity as the cash on cash return would be infinite.

    A person who would enter into this transaction would need to earn a fairly decent income to qualify if they were going to buy it on vendor terms as I wouldn’t be encouraging someone who is struggling to make ends meet go into this JV with me- just because it is vendor finance does not mean it’s for a low income earner. There are people out there who may earn a great income but may be new to the country or not have a sufficient deposit or may not have a savings history who may find this a great opportunity. They either lease option the apartment or buy on vendor terms or maybe an investor may just rent this out straight. There are opportunities [exhappy]to do something with this apartment due to the financing arrangements that go along with the property.

    Kaz

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