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  • Profile photo of imax-99imax-99
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    Whether or not Australia is headed for a recession (all evidence points to yes, sometime around 2009), how will this effect property investment? Should we be prepared for extremely high interest rates, low rental returns, and higher tax?

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    Sydney more likely will have higher rental returns, considering there is a short fall of investors…

    -Thomas

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    Profile photo of Stuart MilneStuart Milne
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    Look at “The Recession We Had To Have”…

    Rental Prices increased as did interest rates but there were still plenty of investors lining up to buy properties…

    One thing about residential property is people always need it. That meas if Rates do go sky high then it aint all bad as people will still wanna lease your hut.

    Relax fella keep an eye out for the signs rates are about to take a huge hike and fix your rates. Some lenders have a 15 year fixed option so there’s no need to panic…

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    Interest rates go down in a recession not up. Normally central banks put interest rates up to dampen growth. Rates are lowered during a recession to try and stimulate investment.

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    Hi All,

    Inflation has just crept over the top of the RBA target range so something may have to be done to reduce spending and lower inflation. However, the rise in petrol prices may do the job and if so the interest rate may not need to go up.

    The recent rise in petrol prices (if sustained) will equate to a 0.25% rise in interest rates for many people. It will be interesting to see what impact this has on inflation figures in the months to come.

    Todd Burns
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    hi matthewsteger
    couple of things to understand.
    1. extremely high interest rates, low rental returns, and higher tax? can’t happen

    why because when you get high interest rates
    the rents have to increase to cover the returns and by doing that you can’t increase tax as well because people slow down working to meet the loss of wages.
    the idea is simple get the worker to work
    to gain a wage that will then flow thru to the avenues that you want that money to go to.
    and to do this if you spend to much on new cars and houses
    the goverment say put up interest rates to slow you buying those items.
    if you stop buying new cars the goverment says lower interest rate so you have cash to buy new cars.( there is a little bit more to it then that but you get the drift)
    as the rents move up to release that rental pressure you need people to buy new units but you also don’t want to reduce rates so thats whats called balancing.
    we have one of the highest interest rates in the world and by the reserve banks balancing and not allowing asian banks in here to drive down our rate it is keeping us above water.
    I don’t see our rate increasing above 2% within the next 3 years as long as china keeps meteor flight in growth
    as there banks lend at 1.5% and they don’t look at us as they are growing to a rate that they don’t need to.
    and the reserve nows it.
    push up rate over 7% and the asia banks will say oh lets start lending here.
    higher taxes
    they are on the cards but I think for self managed superfunds and retirees(I’m in that group but will off shore mine)
    our market is small and will always be seen as such
    you will have the 1% movements but the big question is will asia keep going like it is and pulling our commodities along with it or will it stop.
    and that I am sorry to tell you is better guess at the moment then winning lotto
    oh and lotto this week was 5 million some of the chinese projects are worth 2 billion and still we can’t guess this question.
    crystal balling is good but mine is a little clowdy and I can’t buy a new one.
    you need to adjust to your market and for me I will be very suprised if rate move over 1% by jan 2007 and another 1% by next jan 2008
    but if asia crashes then all bets are off.
    one thing that I do see is that your will have a cronic lack of rentals in sydney first and melbourne next and this will be this year.
    so if you have tennants moving out have a chat with your agents with regards to enquiry levels and its a time to be moving the rates up. they are move relatively quickly up in sydney.
    a 2 br inner suburbs in sept 2005 was 350 per week 2005 same unit is running at 400 and has 13 people wanting to rent it and will be a dutch auction soon.
    not sure about the 2009 time frame as I haven’t seen the data and what its worked on.
    hope its not on bob and pauls the recession we need to had.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    in order to do well out of property over the next 6 years or so it seems that investors are going to have to get off the back sides and make things happen for themselves.

    Sitting back and riding waves of cyclical capital growth just won’t happen. Those that do well will be OPPORTUNITY hounds and information hounds. It won’t as much about fads, gurus, seminars as it will be about hard/smart graft. Hunting for opportunities and using tried and true methods to capitalize.

    Make the most of it boys and girls.

    cheers

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