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    We’re in week 11 now 5 weeks to go.

    Have ya got that Reno property ready yet Redwing :).

    Our Cubbies are coming along alright; put up walls window openings, door opening, plumbed squared off the walls and built the roof and got battons ready for the tin & exterior cladding and constructed the roof. fitted out window jams and door jams also transported the buildings indoors with folk lifts.

    Group two began on a transportable unit (no.1) about two weeks ago the exterior frames and interior frames we’re made up over a few days stood up then de-constructed to make way for the sub floor, welders we’re then bought in to weld up an all steel floor joist frame this took two days to construct two steel frames. Which are welded to the two large long bearers that run almost each side of the transportable units. This steel sub-floor frame is what the actual building will be built on starting with a partical board tongue and groove, screwed & liquid nailed, in first then the building wood frame carried onto this and stood up.

    We (Group 1) start doing the floor tomorrow for the second unit while still working on our Cubbies (these Cubbies are for the kid’s). Some third years breezing through the place each week have progressively been doing the frames for another transportable unit.

    I am learning an Architect program A.T.M in my spare time this is not part of Tafe but just something I want to do. What it can do is draw 3D proffesional quality graphic plans of the a how a building will look landscaped and all. Plus a snap of the wood frame only side plan front plan foundation, just anything and everything to do with the dementions and graphic’s of a building. With plans suitable to submit to council, civil engineers, builders and or for selling puposes for marketting properties off the plan etc.

    What I want to do with this once I get settled in and familiar with the program and how it functions eventually is, import a costs database of say every single thing that Bunnings sell in regards to carpentry and building a house (the list might be hundreds long) and when the Architect program draws the building it will print out a full “Bill of Quantity’s” list so will know how much to build a house or block of units by the square.

    The benifit of this would be nummerous but one of the main reasons I want to learn the Architect program is so that I know how much it costs to build a house or units and then know just only how much a builder could charge an hours on top of this amount. So bassically will give a more accurate quote.

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    Mate just a quick question re government payments for studying…do they still pay if you work full time???

    I am a complete building numpty and would like to have some sort of clue what my father in law (who is a builder) is on about half the time. TAFE course sounds like a great way to go about it.

    Cheers

    Tim

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    I don’t beleive you are entitled to a government assistance if you are working. Sorry but for a grand and 16 weeks training I think you well and truely would get your money’s worth.

    Ok update:

    I’m a bit bored but here goes it’s beginning to be a bit of a drag the excitements gone or is it the weather? I’m looking forward to doing something different in relation to Reno, development, investing etc.

    Started doing the roof construction over the last couple of days and because of the new OH&S and laws all work areas where working above 2 meters must have a scaffold. This means all houses being built practically although you do not see many houses being constructed that actually use these scaffolds around the perimeter of the building it is going to be cracked down on soon more. In simple terms this means that a scaffold must be installed around the perimeter of the building. For an investor developer this adds more costs to your quote. As the builder may hire a sub contractor to come in and install the scaffolding and then take it away once finished with it and or the builder may have them and may take about a day to install. So in the name of safety this is costing everyone more all round. But I must say it is a much better way to work on the house so would probably result in more quality workmanship in the industry in general. Just a bit of an added pain to set up that builders to date are still mostly shying away from. But soon once a few people receive a couple of hefty fines it will probably catch on slowly.

    We will probably not see these transportable units through to completion! Carpentry wise yeah, but not till there finished to a turnkey. I found out that they are going to a local caravan park in Shepparton, Victoria, each are constructed and finished ready to transport for $40,000 and rent for $95 a night (plus other rates) so I imagine the owner/caretaker of the caravan park making a tidy profit. Though I don’t know all the details as far as running a caravan park but on the face of it,..with these transportable units…,seems to be fairly profitable. Mainly just going by the price they’re getting them built for and the quality they are and the price they will rent for. Even with a number of vacancies it will probably do well.

    Just a bit about the roof: it is a Cathedral roof that will be exposed in the front dining living and kitchen area and the remaining back area will be like normal plaster roof.

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    Windows and sliding doors we’re installed [in two units] through last week and a small…but enough size….dark wood stained deck, was layed down in under the Veranda.

    Nine plain wood doors arrived and the sparkies went through and put all the wiring switches and light pionts in.

    The plaster arrived.

    For those interested in carpentry, we have been informed that the Certificate II Pre-ab if not not six month of an apprenticeship but is a full year of an apprenticeship. These changes have apparently only just came into effect. This means that only three further years is required if one wants to become a qualified builder after doing the 16 week pre-ab successfully.

    This was great news.

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    Well the 5th month was when I last posted here. It’s 10th months now! I only just received some photos of the project we built.

    So anyone that was following this thread we are coming to a close I will put the Certificate up when I get it sent in the mail and that will be the end ‘my apologue’ in building a house.

    This file is 500k so it might take a couple of minutes to load on a 56k modern.
    http://www.jaffasoft.com/joint_venture/cubby_hut.html

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    Congratulations on completing the course like many others have thought about doing something like that so thanks for the great insight. Best of luck with your future developments[biggrin]

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    Hi Jaffasoft

    Add 3 bedrooms and it looks like my iIP in mandurah.

    I just enrolled in TAFE, my course is conveyancy. I can do 5 of the modules off campus at home (they seem to be the ones on all the doc’d and procedures). Should be enough for me to do my own settlements. I can go and finish the course at a later date to get a licence. ( I need 2 years experience in an office to get licence – could be a problem)

    I tossed around the idea of becoming a qualified builder, I worked on Raffles re-development as project manager for all the stone work bench tops – building sites are good fun (and not bad for a perv. – sorry guys) – I may do it later.

    Any way the building sites you went sound great, I would love to have done that.

    Excellent!![biggrin] Have fun.[biggrin]

    Celeste

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