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  • Profile photo of grant7grant7
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    Hi all,
    After reading a few lengthy posts on this subject (quite a touchy subject – better than reading a novel!) I have a simple question.

    In the not to distant future I will be using equity to live of and fund futher developments. I have read others statements that because one doesn’t now have a income (as such) they use low doc loans?

    However if I draw down on my equity to live on as I understand it is not taxable income, if you were to state this as income on a low doc loan the ato might not necessarily see my point of view…

    So how do people live on equity and use low doc loans???

    Profile photo of Mortgage HunterMortgage Hunter
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    Some of my clients prefer the NODOC loan to 70%.

    Cheers,

    Simon Macks
    Residential and Commercial Finance Broker
    ***NODOC @ 7.15% to 70% LVR***
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    0425 228 985

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    Can you do construction loans with no doc?

    Thanks
    Grant

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    Hi Grant

    “the ato might not necessarily see my point of view”

    Not only won’t they see you point, but they have now confirmed it in LAW, after the Hart Case that went all the way to the High Court.

    a bit of reading material re these loans
    http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/content/mr2004034.htm

    if you mix Non deductible and deductible amounts together…you’ll keep your accountant very busy $$$$$$$$$$$
    and a ATO tax auditor busy….
    i know…i had a sales tax auditor sit there for 3 weeks going thru every invoice, and finally concluded that i owned them $40

    easiest way for accountant/ato is to take out 2 loans…
    1. personal…non tax deductible
    2. investment…deductible

    or alternatively, start a company, borrowing the money in it, pay yourself a salary.
    Just remember, the company will then also have to pay FBT, PAYE tax, Super Contrib etc, etc….LOTS MORE PAPER WORK

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    HB

    Grant was talking about Low doc loans. The Hart’s case was about capitalising interest on an investment loan while paying off a home loan quicker.

    Can’t see how they relate.

    I also agree that not mixing personal and investment loans. But it is still possible to live on equity by taking out a low doc loan, and living on that money – without claiming the interest.

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    Thanks terry

    i’ll put my glasses on

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    ah thats better

    good reason to be careful grant7

    “If you have a low documentation loan, be aware the Australian Tax Office is watching closely. The ATO has launched a data matching program that will match the income declared by taxpayers to the ATO, against information provided to financial institutions. The following financial institutions form part of the initial program: PMI Mortgage Insurance Ltd; St George Bank Ltd; GE Mortgage Insurance Company Propriety Ltd; Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd; Westpac Banking Corporation; and Suncorp-Metway Ltd.”

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