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  • Profile photo of MooreyMoorey
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    I would buy $10m worth of AUDJPY ($200k margin required) which would pay me about $565k a year in positive carry and another $60k in interest…..a mere $625k p.a or 62.5%

    Crashy. What if the market turned against you. Would you have an exit strategy. I myself would trade $300 000 of it on the fx market using a tested system and put the rest in property. Not sure exactly best way at moment but im working on it.

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    what if the market turned towards me?

    just as much risk of either. same as any investment. the thing here is, AUD rates are rising, JPY are not. Therefore, ‘risk’ is likely to be MORE interest and MORE AUDJPY appreciation.

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    I recently found a managed fund that paid 13.5% in August.
    Yes 13.5% in one month.

    I might stick my million there.

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    Originally posted by Dazzling:

    I would of placed the $1miLL on Makaybe Diva at odds of $4.

    Invested $1miLL : Returned $4miLL : Profit $3miLL

    My mother used to say “woulda coulda shoulda….but didn’t”.

    I note that you put your profession down as a professional gambler, although your post is dated 2 days after the big race. This post event gambling must be a lucrative business I imagine.

    I think the mare’s name is spelt Makybe Diva.

    Dazzling,

    My mother always said, well I was never listening so nut much to say there.

    If your analysys was thorough, then let’s look at the original post with ‘IF’ being the key word… no?

    Seeing as I did reply after the race, ‘WOULD’ seemed appropriate instead of ‘DID’ eventhough there was no ‘$1M’.

    And your right but if you have a look, MakAYBE Diva seemed appropriate as it ‘WOULD’ of been speculative in nature.

    You might know your way around in the investment world and you may post many replies, some worthwhile reading, but most of the time I’d say your on an ego trip. Get of your high horse mate and get over analysing every little detail that people post especially something as trivial as my post that needs no analysing. Makybe Diva ‘DID’ win, but no I ‘WASN’T’ the ‘1M’ mystery punter.

    Cheers,
    Jacob.

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    hi
    before some one starts adding bets on who will win the Makybe Diva debate Its not acceptable equity for this post.
    spi spi spi don’t jump at posts, a cool beer sorts it out
    oh did I say beer should have been sc-tch put that in for badger as I haven’t seen one of his posts for a while.

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    Gross, I am interested in how you would get 2%p/m. The ability to get a steady 27% would interest us all. What method? could you provide a bit more detail. I don’t have a million bucks laying around but I do have some cash coming my way soon. I was thinking of doing a 1/10th or 2/5th scale version of Dazzlings idea.

    jtw

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    hi jtw
    its risk against return.
    caveat lending gives a 2% per month high risk but also high return pm me if you wish and i can put you in touch with the lenders you can use there services or park your money there its not for everyone but is usefull.

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    I would take $200,000 and whack it into the stock recommendations from “Conscious Investor” Software. I would then use the the remaining $800,000 as deposits on real estate within 10km from CBD of Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, and Brissie – 1 property each city:

    1. Sydney – Newtown/Enmore/Leichardt area. $650K 3 bed house @ $420/wk rent. $200K deposit, $450K loan at 7.5% fixed for 10years.
    2. Melbourne – 3 bedroom renovated house in Flemington for $420K @ $350/wk rent. $150K deposit. $270K loan at 7.5% fixed for 10 years.
    3. Perth – $600K House on large block in Mt Lawley, ready for subdivision. Rent at $300 week. $300K deposit. $300K loan at 7.5% fixed for 10 years.
    4. Brisvegas – 3 bedroom house in Paddington for $450,000 @ $300 week. $150K deposit. $300K loan at 7.5% fixed for 10 years.

    Then I would sit back and wait. The shares should earn around 15% p.a. (average is 19% for last 10 years). The properties should double every 7-10 earning $800K equity in the first 7-10. Also it shouldn’t cost anything out of my own pocket to maintain loans etc.(have to adjust deposits etc to achieve this).

    Therefore you have low risk, high return and minimal headaches and effort. Nice!

    P.S. Gross – I have sent you a PM could you please ring me. My number is in PM.

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    Sorry forgot to include stamp duty in loan and the growth in equity would be $2.12M every 7-10.

    “Most people operate under a false ceiling which is 3 feet high” Stuart G Goldsmith

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    Originally posted by Cata:

    I recently found a managed fund that paid 13.5% in August.
    Yes 13.5% in one month.

    I might stick my million there.

    CATA
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    That MF pays a distribution every month?

    Or was it an annual distribution paid in August?

    Which one is it?

    Even if the return is 13% every 12 months then it would be incredibly speculative and noone could believe that could be kept up!

    Cheers,

    Simon Macks
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    ***NODOC @ 7.15% to 70% LVR***
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    Hi Roofarmer
    like the idea the figures aren’t right
    the rent of the leichhart prop would be 726k per week and income is 420k per week so your a little short you can capitalise the loan and draw equity hence yes the idea is right just the figures are a bit rubbery.
    Unless the return from the shares is to hold the properties which is not in my risk profile.

    Venture capital gives 30% return.
    High risk and lots of due diligencies you can get this from most developing companies and accountants which use it to help start up companies.
    2% per month is what in the finance markets call short term money market I call caveat lending.
    Very simple put you want to by a property A and you own property B and the deposit is 45k to purchase A a friendly caveat lender which is a solicitor organises a caveat on property B you purchase A at settlement the property A is payed out and you pay back the money plus 3% per month to the solicitor and he gives the short term money lender his 2% term is usually 2 months can be 3 months.
    Very simple and clean this is a very simplistic version but it is basically how it works.
    Any one interested can email me as normal to [email protected].
    This is not advice and is not any form of lending it is another tool in the box of finence.

    I will post a couple of my outside the box returns as we go along lets see a couple of really out side the box.
    I’m after advice here.
    come on guys and girls give me some help I want to get up wards of 5o% return in 12 months and on going.
    I have a short time Line here.
    lets get these gurus minds working.
    1 mil is a reasonable amount if your idea needs 2 mil post it
    forget risk lets see returns

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    Hi Simon

    That MF pays a distribution every month?
    That is correct

    Or was it an annual distribution paid in August?
    No, it was in one month

    Even if the return is 13% every 12 months then it would be incredibly speculative and noone could believe that could be kept up!

    It is an offshore managed. No it will not get that every month, but I have made my share. Have a look here: http://www.landausecurities.com

    I know Endre personally and he is a great guy.

    If you think that you would struggle to get 13% yearly then you must be looking in the wrong places.

    GR

    Why don’t you send Oxygen Funging a PM. She says she can get 3% per mth return on your money.

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    I think I could get a solid 20% on your 1m, excluding Capital growth.
    I get that on my own money.

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    hi jenwren
    in what

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    Just houses, I think with $1m capital the lenders would look at you as something of a good risk.
    I think you would be in a pretty good position to negotiate cheap money. Given your ability to negotiate interest in advance as well, you could probably get into some higher risk investments with a short trun around. I know it sounds trite and I dont yet make $200,000 per year from property, but it strikes me that you only need to make $100,000 twice, or $50,000 four times to get your return.
    What I do is buy cheap property (most under $50k) from motivated vendors. I have bought houses as cheap as $23,000, I then value add (extra bedrooms, new aesthetics etc…) and rent them out. I bought a small commercial property about 18 months ago for the grand price of $18,000. It is on nearly 1 acre of land on a busy intersection. I did have it rented for $90 per week as a bit of a favour to someone. Rather than rent it again, I am installing a “Business partner” and entering into a profit share arrangement. Apart from having all of the costs paid (rates etc…) I will collect $10,400 pa in my capped share at $200pw. Thats a %57 gross return on my investment. As a plus the business partner will need a house, and I have a house that was purchased for $27,000 that returns $130 per week (25%). I know this is peanuts compared to some of the big deals that people do. But it is easy to do and easy to replicate.
    I am just arranging my first rent to buy deal. I can see that this is the way to go – and the 20% would not be too much of a problem. My first deal involves a motivated vendor who took any price at auction for a house in a mjor regional centre. I onsold in five days for 4.7 times (does that mean 470%?) the purchase price. ( I dont want to publish numbers in case the buyer frequents these forums)

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    Hi jenwren
    thats more like it.
    I like the system,
    works very well and if worked corectly does give alot more then a 20% return.
    nice post
    any more

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    jenwren

    excellent work. any other deals like these? what about the fish that got away?

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    The best fish that got away was a fish that taught me a lesson. I had a chance to make a good $100k profit over 1 year. I needed a partner and couldnt find one. I had to back out of the contract under a finance clause. It was SE QLD and the $35k purchase price represented a minimal risk. I now know that my family are destined to be 95%ers.

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    you failed to tell me you thought my idea was the best, and that you planned to steal it and attempt to start an illegal fund with it:

    http://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2634

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    the thread was deleted as grossrealisation violated numerous ASIC laws.

    Basicly he was looking for investors to give him $5m so he could set up an illegal fund investing in forex.

    This guy is a joke.

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