Attended a personal development course which featured NLP. Was wondering if others have had anything to do with it? What is your interpretation of NLP? At this stage can’t say it means a lot to me, or see what the value actually is.
Also in reading the post about Anthony Robbins in the Guru Watch forum, there was discussion about the dancing, hugging and hyped up atmosphere these types of seminars invariably involve. I don’t mind a little of this, but there’s often too much. If people have the idea this means you are motivated and committed, they need to think again. Motivation comes from within. You can be quietly motivated without an outward show of emotion.
Seminars that wish to incorporate all this hype should maybe have a separate evening where they can have dancing, chanting, etc. That’s not to say you can’t have a bit of fun at the seminar, but there’s just too much carry-on for my liking. What do you think and what has been your experience?
Wes.
Hi, Wezwaz, was that the “Breakthrough to Success Wealth & Power Weekend” you went to? Did you get free tickets for that?
SO you don’t think you got anything at all out of that course?
I was interested in going, too, but had to change my mind.Are you saying there was dancing, hugging, chanting; the whole “We are in happy-land” ritual during the NLP as well? Bugger, I missed that![rolleyesanim]
I agree that this whole hype is just ridiculous and wasting people’s precious time.
As for the hype helping people to be committed and motivated, I say: Pffffffffff it wouldn’t work for me at all, quite the opposite.
Hugging, clapping, cheering, tskkk, should be left to football supporters!Hehe I like your idea of introducing a hype night to get it over and done with![upsidedown]
Celivia
I agree. I’d rather eat my own kidney than attend a happy clappy night. My hubby would probably take along a book to read.
Wylie.
NLP has as much scientific credibility as Tom Cruises’ Scientology comments on post natal depression. I’m yet to find any study with well defined research methodology to support NLP claims. I have however come across a couple of studies suggesting that dancing, etc definetly has some positive benefits. I don’t think I’d be up to paying seminar prices though for the priveledge?
Cheers,
Gatsby!“Sometimes the hardest thing to do in life is often the best thing to do.”
im attending a breakthrough to success seminar next weekend, will let you know what I thought! I attended another 9 hour seminar yesterday, it was the first time I was introduced to NLP. Although alot of it did not have any scietific merit (and Im a scientist) its been around for years and I dont think its fair to dismiss the whole practice!
Alot of the chinese and alternative medicines have no scientific merit, but its been around and working for the chinese even before western medicine was introduced!!!!
some parts of NLP were just too way off the planet for my liking, but there were parts of it that I think I could use to improve my own business!!!!
nothing should be taken as gospel, but always determine what parts of it you can take away and use, dismiss the rest!
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I’m not one for jumping, clapping, hugging etc (well maybe hugging my wife [biggrin]) but I don’t do that sort of activity at the football either. Lots of others do though because they are enjoying themselves or participating etc. There are different personalities some of whom express themselves best that way. Should we judge them just for behaving differently?
NLP is just another area in self development that along with everything else helps us to expand our understanding. Is this bad? I’m not necessarily a “believer” however, it pays to keep an open mind.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. NLP is not the only area where evidence may be lacking. Indeed there are many things in medical clinical practice, for example, that lack well defined research methodology. The literature is abundant with flawed research.
NLP of value? Maybe – who knows. We don’t need to get hyped but we may still get something out of it. And if we feel confident enough about ourselves then there is no harm in letting those who want to enjoy the “hype” do so.
Is hype in the eye of the beholder? [blink]
pr
I’ve recently been doing a bit of study/research on NLP and it seems pretty interesting to me. I believe that Anthony Robbins uses NLP as the tool in his “Unleash the power within” training.
Anyhoo, the following might be of use to others if they’re interested;
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=nlp+explained&btnG=Search&meta=
Yes, it was the “Breakthrough to Success” weekend and I had a free ticket. I thought it couldn’t hurt to go along and see what it was all about. What I was getting at with NLP is what is the objective? How is it supposed to work? Maybe I should do some further research since this was my initial exposure.
Interesting that someone mentioned fans getting excited at the football. Sport is one thing I can get hyped up about. I really get involved in sports I watch or participate in if it is exciting or I am playing a crucial match. Trying to create a sense of excitement from nothing at one of these seminars really doesn’t work for me.
The presenter stated at one point “this stuff works – no question” or words to that effect. Hmmmm. Maybe. Who can tell? If you start a gym program and do it properly, that works for sure. You will see the evidence. Of course, if you say to believers NLP doesn’t work, they can always say you didn’t apply it effectively.
Did I get anything from the course? I think you always get something – maybe a few new ideas, a bit of motivation to make changes for the better, meet some people and so on. Well, also when he says to collect 10 hugs it is a good opportunity to select a few cuddly ladies to hug! That’s a bonus.
gee, I’m going to be in trouble, my husband will be there too. I’m really not looking forward to hugging strangers!!
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phone 0412 437 582Well Dr.X, get ready for lots of hugging, high fives, back/neck massaging and chicken dancing! Don’t forget Fact or Crap, the game.
I was at Readings in Carlton last night and had a flip through a book entitled, ‘SHAM’ (Self Help and Actualization Movement. “How the Guru’s of the Self Help Movement Make us Helpless”) by Steven Salerno. If anyone’s at a book store it definetly is worth a flip through and I’d be interested in peoples opinions? The author is basically stating how we forfeit our own responsibility over to Guru’s to solve our own problems. The author has quite a bit to say about Anthony Robbins and NLP, not to mention the Dr. Phils and Oprahs of the world.
Cheers,
Gatsby.“Sometimes the hardest thing to do in life is often the best thing to do.”
“I was at Readings in Carlton last night and had a flip through a book entitled, ‘SHAM’ (Self Help and Actualization Movement. “How the Guru’s of the Self Help Movement Make us Helpless”) by Steven Salerno.“
Actually, Gatsby, I wrote that title down last week on my “to read” list because someone else (can’t remember who) mentioned it also in a post (can’t remember which thread either hehe) and
I expect this to be a very interesting read!Celivia
So many negative people in the world today with opinions about topics they know nothing about. It still amazes me how individuals can belong to a forum and post opinions with little or no knowledge.
97% of people will fail to become wealthy or self supporting by the time they reach 65 and the same number will be sad and miserable because they have missed opportunities along the way. Go visit a retirement village and interview some lodgers, you view may change.
NLP is a science of how you can better your life, its your choices in life that will determine your destiny, are you making the right choices today?
NLP is a science of what works and how you can impliement those stratagies to better your life, it is not a religion or scientology or a cult, go do some research.
NLP is used by leading negotiators/police/physotheropists etc so its not for dummies and losers.
resi
Originally posted by resiwealth:So many negative people in the world today with opinions about topics they know nothing about. It still amazes me how individuals can belong to a forum and post opinions with little or no knowledge.
97% of people will fail to become wealthy or self supporting by the time they reach 65 and the same number will be sad and miserable because they have missed opportunities along the way. Go visit a retirement village and interview some lodgers, you view may change.
NLP is a science of how you can better your life, its your choices in life that will determine your destiny, are you making the right choices today?
NLP is a science of what works and how you can impliement those stratagies to better your life, it is not a religion or scientology or a cult, go do some research.
NLP is used by leading negotiators/police/physotheropists etc so its not for dummies and losers.
resi
To add to your knowledge, resi, NLP is NOT a science. It is a believe system. The fact that NLP ‘scientists’ borrowed fancy words, such as “modeling” or “feedback loop” from other sciences doesn’t make NLP a science.
I am not saying that NLP is useless- something doesn’t have to be scientifically ‘proven’ to make a difference in SOME people’s lives.
When I expressed my opinion it was about the singing/dancing hype that goes on in these kinds of seminars- I wasn’t attacking the material itself that’s being discussed in the seminars.
I am glad that people come into the opinionated forum to express an opinion- even if they do not know EVERYTHING about the subject. Nobody knows everything about anything and we are all here to listen to and learn from each other.
Celivia
Hi Celivia thanks 4 the response.
Understanding and controlling our BELIEF SYSTEMS is a science in my opinion. Our belief system is a direct result of our life’s experiences and how we interprate and reference information, which leads to a RESULT good/bad as that may be at that time.
We all need a cuddle in our lives and the purpose of this at some legit events is to build connection with other human beings rather than distancing our selves from people. In my experience some of the richest people i have met (not necessarily money) are the most affectionate.
I worry about people who can’t look me in the eye or shake my hand in a genuine fashion etc you know the type don’t you? knowledge is the key to success and i was taught to keep my mouth shut before i made a d..k out of myself (which happens often)
I came from humble beginnings and over the last 15 years i have spent over 150,000.00 in bettering myself with these types of courses including my most recent $7,000.00 with Jay Abraham and Vision Persuit. There are many scamers out there, we all know who they are, but through it all some run the test of time as good investments into our personal development
To me NLP is one of those,
100 years from now it won’t matter … resi[biggrin][biggrin]
I saw tony Robbins 3 years ago.I felt that all the singing and jumping and hugging was more about keeping people alert.The days would start at 9am or so and finish at midnight,non stop.I am not saying Robbins is good or bad .I made a comment about it all onanother forum last friday and started a riot…158 posts on the thread last time I looked!
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By Resiwealth: “We all need a cuddle in our lives and the purpose of this at some legit events is to build connection with other human beings rather than distancing our selves from people. In my experience some of the richest people i have met (not necessarily money) are the most affectionate.“
Fair enough, resiwealth, I never looked at it like that. But for me, I need to connect with people naturally and gradually, I’m not very much into hugging strangers.
Anyway, we are all different and I’m glad that you and others got something positive out of the seminars you attended, whether they can be classed as a science or not[wink2].
Celivia
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