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  • Profile photo of batts71batts71
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    G’day guys,

    I’d be really keen to hear from anybody who’s attended Rick Otton bootcamp. I am considering attending, and before I part with the $4500, it would be great to hear first hand from anyone who’s attended (or looking at attending).

    I haven’t read any negative comments on Rick, which is rare with today property “guru’s”, so thats a positive start.

    Thanks guys, I appreciate your help!

    Cheers,

    Batts

    Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi Batts

    We took a big leap of faith and moved the family from a cushie expat lifestyle, back to OZ in early 2003, after buying Rick’s Wrap Pack. We attended Rick’s Camp in March 2003 and haven’t looked back since.

    To say the least, it has been very profitable but what has also been great is the relationships we’ve built with the people we’ve helped into their own homes. I know it’s an over used term but the win – win nature of this business is a great plus.

    We have also used Steve’s Wrap Kit and we feel you will get excellent education no matter whether you pick Rick or Steve as your teacher.

    I would also suggest that you don’t pay out these large sums of money unless you absolutely commit to real action on completion of the courses you choose. Too many people spend too much money and end up doing nothing because of analysis paralysis or whatever.

    Good luck.

    Cheers, Paul

    Paul Dobson | Vendor Finance Institute
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    An alternative way to finance your home.

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    Paul,
    I have the rent to own pack and think its excellent, is the bootcamp an addition and what does it offer over and above the rent to own pack?

    I’m only interested in lease options not wraps

    We buy properties in Adelaide. Immediate Cash Settlements, No Real Estate Agents, No Fees.
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    Profile photo of rickottonrickotton
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    @rickotton
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    The event this year moves with the massive growth in the market place of assuming loans through lease options and creating debtfree income streams through 2nd mortgage carrybacks.I’m sure we’ll cover all the other types of vendor financing somewhere but for the benefit of those not familiar with the power of the 2nd mortgage carrybacks as a great cashflow strategy here is something that came together this week.
    Some readers of this post will know about a pretty new, but smelly house I picked up a couple of weeks ago for a great discount because the agent simply could not get anybody to look at it.
    The house was worth 350k and we paid $276,800 including smell. We asked the selling agent to get it painted for 3k then a mortgage broker bought us a buyer who could get a loan with RAMS but did not wish to pay the mortgage insurers fees.We received 10k deposit in cash and a second mortgage for 60k paying us $384 a month cashflow for 30 years with the buyer taking title with his new RAMS 80% loan. All this done by either the agent or the mortgage broker with no underlying loan debt for us and never leaving the office.The cashflow creating power of this strategy is awesome.www.rickotton.com

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    Originally posted by rickotton:

    The house was worth 350k and we paid $276,800

    Rick,

    How did you arrive at the market value of the property? Cant an argument be made that the market value of a property is whatever price it sells at? In this instance, the market would not pay 350k for the house, so therefore it was not worth 350k – it was worth whatever a buyer would pay for it, which in your case is 276k.

    If the agent couldnt get a single person through the house at the advertised price, then how was that the market value?

    I know it makes for great advertising to tell people you got a property 25% under value, but I dont think its correct.

    Jay.

    Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi Jay

    If you buy a property for $276,800 a few weeks back and sell it this week for $350,000, then this week surely you’re allowed to say that the property has a market value of $350,000 because this is what someone is prepared to pay for it.

    If RAMS now value the property at $350,000 you have two indicators that the market value is $350,000.

    I’d agree that a few weeks back it had a market value of $276,800. But now it has a market value of $350,000 and all you’ve had to do is paint it for $3,000.

    If at this point someone can’t say they bought a $350,000 property for $276,800 then when can they? (discounting the paint)

    Cheers, Paul

    Paul Dobson | Vendor Finance Institute
    http://www.vendorfinanceinstitute.com.au
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    An alternative way to finance your home.

    Profile photo of batts71batts71
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    G’day Rick,

    Sounds like a great deal! Very exciting stuff, and I’m looking forward to learning more at the bootcamp in October.

    Cheers,

    Batts

    Profile photo of rickottonrickotton
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    Thank you for the question.Before I agreed to this purchase I asked the agent (whom I’ve bought from before)what else had just sold in the street to support this property as being below market and a good buy.Two houses had sold in the same street one for 348k and one for 355k.I will shortly put up on my site some downloadable footage of this transaction taking place with the agent in the driveway of this house.www.rickotton.com

    Profile photo of CeliviaCelivia
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    Originally posted by rickotton:

    We asked the selling agent to get it painted for 3k then a mortgage broker bought us a buyer who could get a loan with RAMS but did not wish to pay the mortgage insurers fees.

    How much do buyers cost these days, Rick?

    [upsidedown]Couldn’t help myself![upsidedown]

    Celivia

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    Hi all,

    How does CGT apply in this case?

    Munjy

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    Sounds interesting… but I couldn’t help wondering about the smell. What was causing it, how did you get rid of it or did the fresh paint fumes just cover it up? [sick3]

    Reminds me of a place we once moved into after the agent assured us it just needed a little airing. Turns out that the carpet and underlay were glued to the floorboards with dog urine. Man was that scary – even the carpet guy took photos!shocked2]

    Sonja

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    Before you part with your money to go to a Rick Otton wrap pack, just remember he is giving you advice on how to rip other people off.

    His “we buy houses” scheme and his henchmen are just out there to get your money. Visit the Jenman website and read his stories. I honestly thought that someone couldnt be that bad until I came across it myself and experienced it myself. Its true. It only takes one person to expose you, Rick.

    Sorry ROtton

    Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi SRO

    Karen, my wife and I were trained by Rickand have now on sold many house using various vendor finance techniques. We would be happy to give you the names and telephone numbers of every single one of those purchasers because they’ve already told us that we don’t have to ask each time, just get our prospective buyers to ring them.

    If you search through this forum you will see various comments about Mr Jennman’s thoughts on vendor finaning. May I suggest you read a broad range of these comments.

    Both Rick and Steve have taught vendor financing techniques to many people over the years. Just as there are good and bad real estate agents and car sales people, there are bound to be bad vendor financiers. May I suggest you have a look at the website for the Vendor Finance (Wraps) Association and ask for a copy of the Association’s Code of Professional Conduct.

    If you have a specific instance of unprofessional conduct by a vendor financier, I’m sure the whole vendor finance community would like to here about it (without names) so that we can see if we can get you through the problem you’ve been experiencing.

    Cheers, Paul

    Paul & Karen Dobson
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    Paul Dobson | Vendor Finance Institute
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    An alternative way to finance your home.

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    Hi tiredofthis sorry for asking, but are you affiliated to the Jenman site or are you actually Mr Jenam in disguise here?

    Saw your other post in the Help section where you put your views on Rick and again referred to some artical on that site.

    Regards,

    SK2

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