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Hi All,
I’m interested in learning about subdividing land however I’m not sure where to get started. Can someone give me advice on a step by step process. From how to contact the council, how long it takes, costs involved etc. Do I send a letter, complete a form etc.
Any advice would be appreciated.
[blush2]Cheers
FluffyHi Fluffy,
Go and say hello to your local council.
They really are a wealth of knowledge.
Just walk in and let the person on the front desk know what you are after and you will be directed to the right person/s.
I have found most councils that I have dealt with have been most helpful.With councils there is no faster response than to be there in person.
Remember to smile and say thankyou a lot, it opens more doors.
Most people walk in with problems and are usually rude.
So do the opposite and be very polite and chances are you will get fast speedy service every time you call.17 years ago I walked in and reported about the condition of a toilet in a community hall.
A week later I was told that it was still dirty and could I please come in and have a talk with them.I walked in and when I walked out it was with a business, not kidding.
There were 23 council contracts that had been advertised in the last 6 months and had attracted no tenders, most likely too small to be of interest but when grouped together I was quickly convinced it was a good offer.They gave a fair competitive price and I asked for price mark-ups to keep pace with % increase of the mayor’s pay.
They agreed and that night the cancellers announced a 20% pay rise.It pays to get to know your local council.
Plus most government departments have poor communication from the left hand to the right hand.
The girls on the front desk were talking about something upsetting (they didn’t get a pay rise).
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For all your CLEANING and GARDENING work.Hi Colin,
What an interesting story. Thanks so much for your info – I will go and have a chat to them – thanks again.
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Cheers
FluffyWith out repeating … go and do a search on this site as there r other similar posts where you can read the replys.
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Hi fluffy if you are in victoria contact me I specialise in selling land that is suitable for subdivison Its not as hard as it appears but unless you know all the pitfalls it can be risky
Bill
Hi Fluffy,
Two of the Mappers, John & Rhonda, seem to specialise in subdivision. They’re in SA so the rules may be different to Qld. But they have a site from which you may be able to contact them and perhaps get some help.
All the best
Pauls211 :o)Hi Fluffy
Myself and 2 siblings recently subdivided some land of over 6000m2. We were able to create six 1000m2 commercial blocks and it was relatively simple.
Firstly we contacted a licenced surveyor and he contacted all the relevant authorities and drew up plans. All we had to do was part with the fees associated with all of this.
There were a few areas that had to be addressed relating to neibhouring properties, stormwater etc but a meeting with local council in an amicable environment sorted out these issues effectively.
At the end of it all it was only a few phone calls and payments to the relevant authorities eg, the development assessment commission, water authority, local council and the surveyor for his work.The surveyor liased with all of the authorities and kept in contact.
From first contact with the surveyor to final approval took 8 months and was completed in June 2004. We are keeping one prime block to develop but the rest have all sold with the last contract being signed back in March.
So have a go, do some research and hopefully like us you can make a good return.
We found that the value of the finished development was 4 times its original undeveloped value minus cost of around 25%
bkpentaHi there..
don’t know where you are but Alastair (Melbourne)in this Forum is excellent. His Dad runs a great town planning business and He is certainly switched on. I met him in Perth recently and certainly can vouch for him. I’m sure he would be only too willing to point out the process, ups and downs etc.. You can reach him on: [email protected]Check out their site
regards
Apostle
Hi Fluffy,
Two of the Mappers, John & Rhonda, seem to specialise in subdivision. They’re in SA so the rules may be different to Qld.
Didn’t know Queensland had any rules.. thought you just banged some pegs in the ground and went for it![biggrin]
Apostle
Well thems rules ain’t they Apostle??
If you didn’t bang them pegs in the ground and just went for it, then that would be ‘no rules’But seriously, we are doing a subdivision in Qld, and the rules are no different from elsewhere in Oz.( obviously not!)
You have to consult the council, and get a consultant town planner on board, as well as an engineer, etc, etc.
This is for a land subdivision where you are carving up the raw land and creating individual blocks with seperate titles.During this consultation process is where you will get your costings as well, usually via quotes.
It also depends on what sort of subdivision you are talking about Fluffy.
For a smaller dual occ strata or green title subdivision, the process is simpler and much cheaper.
You can usually get a surveyor to organise the whole job for you, including getting quotes and lodging all the necessary paperwork.
The last two dual occ green title subdivisions we have done cost $18k and $23k which included the demolition to bring the block back to cleared land ready for re building.The land subdivision is going to cost $???.??
Its more like a ‘how long is a piece of string’ type question.So it depends on what you are looking at when you say ‘land subdivision’ ( ie…you need to be more specific)
kp
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Heh Apostle
Steady about knocking your Qld counterparts.
We have very strict rules the pegs have to be a least a metre apart.Cheers Richard
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Land Subdivision can be a minefield as said by others in this forum. Find someone who has been through the process. Different States, even councils can have different rules and requiremnets (except QLD!) Try to find someone who has been through the process in your State. It can be simple but it can suddenly spring a few surprises and inevitable delays..
Developers Dictionary: When can I expect my titles?
Answer: Think of the worst case scenario and then add 6 … no.. 9 months to it!Apostle
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