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  • Profile photo of Playa ChickenPlaya Chicken
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    Here’s an interesting read from Olly Newland giving his 2005 predictions for investing in NZ real estate …

    WHERE NOW FOR 2005?

    An Overview
    ***********
    This is election year. If the socialists run true to form they will
    do their damnedest to ensure a booming economy until after the
    election. As soon as they get re-elected in September — just see
    what nasties they will wheel out shortly after!

    I have no doubt that that the property market will be one of the
    first in the firing line — particularly the tax-free status of much
    of the profits it can bring.

    Be prepared for some form of capital gains tax dressed up as a
    something else (e.g. stamp duty) and all sorts of clever tricks that
    will apply more to investors rather than first time home owners.
    This will all be brought in under the excuse that “we are merely
    getting in line with other countries”. Which is true enough.

    Australia has a fearsome capital gains tax (even on one’s own
    home) plus a nasty stamp duty both when buying and selling. Don’t
    forget that stamp duty is nothing new to kiwis. In New Zealand
    commercial property transactions groaned under the weight of stamp
    duty on purchases until only a few years ago — as did residential
    property about 25 years ago. Commercial leases were also taxed
    through a stamp duty.

    The USA has capital gains tax, as does the U.K. These both apply
    to the family home and investment property. You read it here first
    folks. Don’t say later that you were surprised.

    However such taxes can carry big benefits. If a person selling
    their property has to pay a chunk in tax then their first reaction
    is push the price up to cover the extra cost. Secondly, people
    become reluctant to sell in case they incur a tax — hence
    causing a shortage. I’m old enough to remember the Property
    Speculation tax of 1973 which drove up prices 50% because so many
    people withdrew their properties from sale rather than pay the tax.

    And earlier (I still have the paperwork) when the Land Sales
    Regulations were imposed as a wartime measure freezing the price of
    property (and rents) for years. I also remember how people got
    around the rules: a property may have been sold for (say) 2,000
    pounds, the same price for which it had been bought five years earlier
    but an EXTRA 1,000 pounds was demanded for the chattels which were
    not price-regulated. “Carpet Money” was a standing joke among
    property investors and dealers right through the 40’s and much of
    the 50’s.

    Those were also the days of the Fair Rents act where sitting
    tenants could not be evicted and had their rents frozen at 1930’s
    levels. The only way to get them out (and increase the rent) was to
    wait until they died or to bribe them out. Fun days indeed!

    Things may be more sophisticated now but the message should be
    clear: Governments are capable of anything “for the greater good” so
    don’t be surprised if and when they drop some big and nasty rule
    change in your lap. It’s all been done before and it’s great fun to
    see how it all eventually unravels and blows up in the face of the
    pointy-heads who dreamt it up in the first place.

    To sum up, I think this year will see a softening of the
    residential market but with still some spectacular sales which will
    be advertised widely by those with agendas to pursue. You know who
    I’m talking about: agents, bankers, developers and hucksters with a
    vested interest in propping the market up. Already the statistics
    tell us it now takes longer to sell a property, that prices are down
    in many regions, and that building consent applications are also
    down.

    Commercial
    **********
    The commercial market, on the other hand, is still strong, strong,
    strong! — mainly because of the higher yields. Even so some people
    who are away with the fairies are still buying trophy properties
    at 3-4% yields. Eventually they will bang their heads on the
    kitchen wall and try to understand why they did it.

    Flats
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    Auckland, in common with some other parts of the country, is slowly
    sinking under a glut of cheap flats. Whether they are rented out or
    lived in by owners each cheap flat takes a house hunter out of the
    market. Flats are getting harder and harder to let and rents are
    falling steadily.

    Expensive luxury apartments and useful family homes are largely
    unaffected, but the cheap end of the market is heading for the
    doldrums. If you have some cheap flats, lock in your good tenants
    long-term with inducements of all kinds: a $10 per week reduction in
    rent may save you thousands in vacancies later down the track.

    Worse still, there are hundreds if not thousands of flats still
    being built yet to come on stream. One company advertises full page
    newspaper ads offering you the opportunity to buy an apartment off
    the plans for only a thousand dollars down.

    Think about it. Why does a developer advertise his apartments
    for only $1,000 down? A written test not less than 500 words will
    be emailed to all readers of this article which must be completed
    and emailed back for marking within seven days. (Joke – it’s
    obvious.)

    Interest Rates
    **************
    Get ready for steeper interest rate rises. Interest rates are on the
    rise worldwide. Whether the NZ Reserve Bank raises them this month
    or next is of little importance.
    The point is they will rise sooner rather than later.

    Readers of my earlier columns will recall me saying that all
    investors should add 2% to their current interest payments and
    deduct 10% off their rents — and get out of the market of the
    numbers don’t stack up. This still applies. So do the exercise again
    and stop dreaming that it will all get better tomorrow.

    To most people still enjoying fixed interest rates an interest
    rate increase merely means a bottle of wine more or less a week.
    That’s not the point. If interest rates get too tough values will
    fall — and that will take wine off the table for a long time.

    On another hilarious matter, Dr Cullen fell head-first into a
    trap a week or two ago by saying that people should buy shares
    rather than property. This nonsense was neatly summed up in a daily
    paper cartoon the day after showing a tramp on a park bench writing
    to Dr Cullen and asking if he could swap his Equiticorp shares for a
    mortgage.

    This blooper is on the same level as Dr Brash’s comment some
    years ago that people should rent rather than own a home as it was
    cheaper. The trouble was that Dr Brash didn’t explain who would own
    all the houses that all these renters would want to live in.

    Interest rates are still relatively benign and another quarter
    or half a percent could be tolerated (just!) Traditional interest
    rates were always around 8% on first and 10% on second mortgage.
    Anything over those rates means either inflation or (horror of
    horrors) ‘stagflation’ — being a mixture of recession and inflation
    — the investor’s worst nightmare.

    Having lived through recession, hyper-inflation, and
    stagflation, I can assure you: inflation is better.

    Australia
    *********
    What happens in Australia comes across the ditch sooner or later.
    In Australia, especially Sydney, property values have fallen three
    months in a row, auction clearances are at an all-time-low and
    there is much talk about a bust. Anyone that can bowl under arm
    deserves all they get. But seriously folks, Australia’s market
    is always more extreme than New Zealand, tending to overshoot
    one way or the other. Nevertheless the message is clear.

    Keep an eye on Australia and learn. If things get horrible in
    Queensland or Sydney or Melbourne then it will surely get sticky
    here as well.

    Those of you who want to follow the Australian property market
    should click into http://www.domain.com.au which is a useful site for both
    private sellers and real estate agents. On this site you can follow
    the fate of various properties and email the sellers driving them
    silly with questions.

    2005 will be a very interesting year all round. To those of you
    still thinking but not acting I have one word of advice: Get off
    your bums and do something, anything, but stop dreaming!

    Olly Newland
    March 2005
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    Good old olly. He is good for a laugh and always makes me smile, I read his latest book recently (the one about the bubble) and it is very funny indeed.

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    Dont you love these people. They spread doom and gloom without trying to explain there reasons. Firsly with the Sydney market the returns are down to 2-3%. Thats one of the reasons the investment market is falling. The exit fee is another. Interest rates in Nz and Australia in the medium term will either stay stable or move down. Even if they do increase it wont be by much. It is also clear that it is unlikly that rates will keep on increasing in the United States as the economy is hardly booming. It is also important to not that the Labour party in New Zealand are the ones that have brought in many of the reforms. Including GST and unlike Australia they removed many of there other taxes to encourage people to invest long term. Despite introducing a supernauation scheme at there last budget, it is unlikely that they will now reverse previous decisions and reintroduce a capital gains tax. Remember if my memory serves me correctly GST in New Zealand is at around 12.5% I think that they would be lynched if they tried to introduce new taxes. They also need over seas invesment. Like most Western countires they are also facing a major problem with funding the baby boomers. With no complusary Superannuation until now it is highly unlikely that they will now introduce policy to put people off saving or investing. As for the apartments in Auckland many off those investors are Australians who do not bother to do any research. If they did they would realize that you cannot get finance in $1000 down but it does hold them to the contract. If the values fall than many people may find themselves in trouble. If you want to buy in New Zealand stick to established property, I like family homes. These are safe and will always be in demand with tenants. Remember in New Zealand the tax advantages to new and old property is not that great and being no stamp duty there is no advantage to buying off the plan except of course to the developer.

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    Originally posted by nkibel:

    Dont you love these people. They spread doom and gloom without trying to explain there reasons.

    As opposed to those who make interest rate predictions without basis?
    Recall this:

    Interest rates in Nz and Australia in the medium term will either stay stable or move down. Even if they do increase it wont be by much. It is also clear that it is unlikly that rates will keep on increasing in the United States as the economy is hardly booming.

    Do you have any idea who Alan Greenspan is and his import to US interest rates? From last night:

    Alan Greenspan told the US Congress on Thursday the Federal Reserve would continue to raise interest rates, dispelling market speculation that the cycle of rate rises was about to end.

    Link Here

    I assure you, interest rates will rise further in Australia. NZ I really couldn’t care about.
    F.[cowboy2]

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    Interest rates in the united ststes are still well below Australia. Who are you to assure anyone that intest rates will rise. Inflation in Australia is not under any presure. What do you base your facts

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    I know you are but what am I?[biggrin]
    Dude, at least I’m prepared to make a case!

    It is this simple – short of a collapse in the US dollar#, rising US interest rates narrow the interest rate differential between the US and Us. Foreign investment flows to the US rather than Australia, placing downward pressure on the Australian dollar. This is fine… sort of. A lower AUD is good for Australian exporters and our current accounts, but makes imports more expensive. It also increases the cost of US-dollar contracted commodities of which oil is one. Oil costs are already rising, and a falling AUD will only exacerbate the situation. The cost of oil is factored into almost everything we purchase as darn near anything is either made from oil, with machines that use oil and/or transported with… oil.
    Rising oil price = Rising consumer prices = Inflation
    And what does the RBA do when prices inflate beyond their target (which is already set to be breached within the next 12 months)? It raises interest rates.
    Oops, I produced an argument to support my post!
    Now I know very well that I’m only looking at one small factor here but there are many others I could have grabbed. The surprisingly strong recent employment figures for example. Have we possibly fallen below the NAIRU*? Does such a thing even exist? What about a slightly Austrian take on monetary expansion – with the broad money supply growing by 10-14% per year where in the hell is all this money going to go?

    Now how about you try making a case for the Reserve to lower the overnight cash rate. Or just perhaps post a few links to economic forecasters who believe the next move is down. Show me just one and I’ll show you a Grade A moron.

    Cheers, F.[cowboy2]

    # This is darn near inevitable, but not yet imminent.
    * Non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment.

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    [specool]Well done Ausprop. I find BRW writers are usually quite thorough. I’ll digest the article before I go calling anyone a moron.
    Cheers, F.[cowboy2]

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    Dear Nigel,

    1. I have read most of Olly Newman’s books and even attended one of those courses run by empower Education where he was one of main speakers. You may want to read about his investing background in his book, ” the Lost Property”.

    2. If I were you, I will not simply and lightly discard what Olly has to say, given his rich investing experiences and life insights.

    3. Honestly speaking, I have better regards for what Olly is saying than what you have posted here, though I may not fully agree with him.

    regards,
    Kenneth KOH

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    Readers of my earlier columns will recall me saying that all investors should add 2% to their current interest payments and deduct 10% off their rents — and get out of the market of the numbers don’t stack up.

    Sounds like wise words to me, if only to complete the exercise as a worst-case scenario.

    Regards,

    Steve McKnight

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    Come on guys. This is only one mans opinion. You can take it or leave it. While I dont wholy subscribe to Ollys view point it does make to think about your plan.

    Tamara

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    If you’ve ever been to one of Olly’s one-day or weekend workshops it is obvious he has been investing for a long time (40+ years I believe) and has experienced numerous up markets and his share of down markets and thus has learned the cycles and what to look for in a changing property market.

    Olly is one of the few people on the speaker circuit who has actually been there, done that AND got the t-shirt to prove it!

    While he is only one voice, in my opinion he’s one of the few worth listening to!

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    Even the New Zealand government realise that many of there own people will not have enough money in retirement. With a complusary super scheme, this will take years before it has any real impact on the economy. In Australia we have had this scheme since the early 1980s and most government figures are still indicating that most people will not have enough to retire on.

    What I like about New Zealand is that it gives a separate income stream to Australian investors. If you buy in main cities and you can still get returns ranging from 6.5% to 10% or higher and you are looking for a long term investment then I believe it is a very safe investment. It is important to keep in mind that I do not buy property on behalf of clients for short term gains nore do I buy in Regional areas. I agree that many Australians are foolishly purchasing off the plan properties for high prices or so called high cashflow properties in over supplyed regional areas. Investing is about common sense. Would it have been better to buy property in New Zealand 5 years ago, of course. But where will prices sit in say 10 years.

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    Nkibel, I wish I had a crystal ball and could see where property prices will be in 10 years! But one thing you can be sure of, there will be a lot of Aussie and Kiwi investors sitting VERY pretty and not needing to worry about what the governement coffers have to offer them!

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    Hi

    I agree with Playa chicken

    Olly is one of the few people on the speaker circuit who has actually been there, done that AND got the t-shirt to prove it!

    While he is only one voice, in my opinion he’s one of the few worth listening to!

    There are many investors who have been successful in the rising market but how many of them have been through the ups and downs of the market and survived it successfully?

    It is our job as investors to read and listen about the market and make decisions that fit our plan.

    Tamara

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