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  • Profile photo of jcls79jcls79
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    I am contemplating purchasing a new IP (3 bedroom house which has been recently painted) in WA and the rental manager who is doing rent appraisal says it will never go for more than 160/week even if i build another carport for the property. Well, I’ve got some ideas (with budget of $5K) to increase it to 200/week but want opinions of fellow forum contributors:

    1) pave backyard so as to minimize maintenance by tenant?

    2) replace old A/C unit at each room with central A/C that saves electricity bills

    3) take out carpet and tile the lounge and hallway

    4) or a more radical idea is to increase my borrowing and subdivide the backyard and just sell off the extra land to builder so they can build a unit

    Cheers
    john

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    Hey,

    The fatal flaw in your theory is that these are all things that you think might increase then rent.

    Personally, I do it differently… before letting the property interview the prospects and offer them:

    1. A base rent ($160 per week)
    2. A list of improvements and the additional weekly rental cost.

    For example:

    Weekly Rent (not negotiable): $160

    + Tick which combo offer you would like:

    [ ] Movies at Home <Pay TV> (+12 per week)
    [ ] Secure garage (+20 per week)
    [ ] Breezy Comfort <Ceiling fans> (+$5 per week)
    [ ] Speedy-Net <Boradband Internet> (+$10 per week)

    etc etc

    That way you spend your money in a way that will increase the rent according to what the tenant (rather than you) wants!

    Remember to sell the benefit rather than just the feature. E.g.

    Be cool in summer <new air con> (+10 per week)

    etc etc

    Cheers,

    Steve McKnight

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    Steve

    Let me try to understand this theory. Rather than me trying to second guess what the potential tenants want (which can differ from individual to individual), I offer them the basics (which is 160/week as what the rental appraisal says) and then offer them extra benefits (provided that the property is in a livable stage)?

    thanks
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    You got in John… that way you’re not second guessing the market.

    Cheers,

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    Hi All
    Great advise I will try that.
    Kerwyn

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    Originally posted by jcls79:

    Well, I’ve got some ideas (with budget of $5K) to increase it to 200/week but want opinions of fellow forum contributors:

    1) pave backyard so as to minimize maintenance by tenant?

    Negligible benefit for a tenant.

    2) replace old A/C unit at each room with central A/C that saves electricity bills

    An evaporative unit would put you back around $3K+ excluding removal and/or fitting costs.

    Ducted reverse cycle units (if that is what you are considering) twice/three times this figure.

    3) take out carpet and tile the lounge and hallway

    I am not sure that a 25% increase in rent will be achieved through the combination of the suggestions – not will you fit many of them within the $5K budget.

    Your PM will know what is achievable – and based on their comments you may be seeking a rent rise that isn’t sustainable in the local area.

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    Derek the impossible is achievable on $5k and some imagination. The lift a small place gets from some really simple things like a rangehood, bathroom exhaust fan, toilet seat(white and clean) and a new shower head(low flow). The rangehood for $89, the fan for $15, the toilet seat for $20 and the shower head a furhther $20. The paint for a 2 bed townhouse should be around the $600 mark including brushes and rollers, tiling kitchen. laundry and 6 tiles for entry area, try $217 for tiles and $300 to lay by a fantastic professional who cleans up too.

    Carpet for a lounge and 2 bedrooms upstairs $900, new curtains custom made and installed $560, new clothes dryer for $ 350 and a new vanity for $280 with taps for $55 the set.

    Sparkie $300 fixed a lot of small stuff too, plumber did all that was needed and a leaky sink too for $380 and you do get a lot done and all in 1 week and damn, there is change from your $5k reno.

    I got a $50/wk rent hike too so all you think can be done , can actually be done. If you think it cant then…………..oops.

    DD

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    Derek has a very good point. You can achieve some very good results on a budget but it take a bit more than just waiving your cheque book over the yellow pages.
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    5k is probably on the mark if spent wisely. I can’t really see the benefit of paving yards and doing decks etc unless you are going for resale(immediate). Paint and fittings are the go.
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    You may want to ask the managing agent why he thinks $160/wk is the limit. Theoretically he should know the market he is operating in?

    Let us know how you go.

    Anne.

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    Suggest seeking an independent rent appraisal on your property, this way you are not relying on one property managers opinion, educated or not…

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,
    GeoffB

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    my PM said I would never achieve $150/wk in my pet area, now the latest reno has nabbed $160 they mumble something and change the subject very quickly.

    Good Luck and try anyway.

    DD

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