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    Iam new to this. Can anyone suggest what to look for in a cash flow + prop. How to work out rental yeilds? what sort of rent would you expect to be getting on a prop say $200 for it to be cash flow + ? can any body give me some simple formulas to use etc

    THX

    Kempsta

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    a simple formula is the rent over the purchase price. Say $100k house has $100 rent a week. This is 100/100 which is 1 to 1 or 5% return.

    The same $100k house getting $150/wk rent is 1.5/1 or 7.5%

    Again the $100k property getting $180/wk is 9% and so on. Thats as simple as I look at property. Get this and your council/water rates and any body corp fees and know your management rates and a projection of maintainance and you should be fine.

    We allow $1000/property/yr for maintainance as an average. If there are lifts/pools/tenniscourts your costs double as a rule so be cautious, try to buy houses for land content and units/townhouse for cashflow a bit better and there is your start.

    Good Luck

    DD

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    Originally posted by kempsta:

    Iam new to this. Can anyone suggest what to look for in a cash flow + prop. How to work out rental yeilds? what sort of rent would you expect to be getting on a prop say $200 for it to be cash flow + ? can any body give me some simple formulas to use etc

    THX

    Kempsta

    Try buying after the crash has finished, not when it is starting. Plenty of CF+ property on the way. Use this time to learn the in’s and out’s and when the disaster happens learn from other’s mistakes.

    Property is not a one way bet.[hmm]

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    Torachan
    Are you suggesting I wait a while b4 jumping in at this stage I am not even sure where to look!!!
    Do you feel the market will continue to slow due to interest rate rises.As that is what I feel.[cap]

    THX
    kempsta

    DD

    Thank you that is exactly what I needed on ave what sort of yeild would you need to be cf+
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    THX
    kempsta

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    Kempsta,

    It’s spot on. It is an excellent bet to hold off for a while yet, there will be, as said above bargains and positive CF opportunities arising. As long as you don’t just dive in like others did.

    Good luck.

    J.

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    Originally posted by kempsta:
    on ave what sort of yeild would you need to be cf

    Anything better than interest rate % will be gross cf+ but for safety you’ll want to use the following:

    7.3% Interest Rate (for example)
    +
    1.5% Potential Interest Rate change
    +
    1.0% Annual maintenance
    +
    ?.?% Property Management costs (including rates etc)
    +
    ?.?% Margin for rental voids.

    I know it seems fairly conservative to be chasing >10% rental returns when many are happy with <5%, but as I don’t see further capital appreciation in property for many years to come, it would be daft for me to consider anything less.

    Cheers, F.[cowboy2]

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