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  • Profile photo of jess_2jess_2
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    Hi all
    happy new year!

    Just wondering what if one of those things happened to my investment property, like earthquake, tsunami burned down to the ground etc etc… someone told me it’s called “act of God” and if it happened that’s it—you won’t be compensated from the government or any insurance company at all.

    Is this true? How can I protect my investment properties?

    Thanks in advance
    Jess

    Profile photo of Robbie BRobbie B
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    You make sure you do not have an insurance policy that excludes such disasters. The Government is not obliged to help although they most likely will.

    In any case, whether ‘God’ exists or not is always debateable and you could probably get compensated unless the specific disaster is excluded in the policy.

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    provided the insurance company doesn’t go bust in the process.

    these disasters are usually huge and when they hit, no one can predict what can happen. Your policy may be a good one, but if they go bust, like HIH then you have no hope.

    Byronent
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    Hi Jess,

    First of all a tsunami won’t burn your house down to the ground, a fire will though, in which case as long as you have adequate insurance to cover rebuilding the construction, you’ll be fine.

    A definition of “natural disasters” as defined by HLG (refer to weblink below)

    A natural disaster is a serious disruption to a community or region caused by the impact of a naturally occurring rapid onset event that threatens or causes death, injury or damage to property or the environment and which requires significant and coordinated multi-agency and community response. Such serious disruption can be caused by any one, or a combination, of the following natural hazards: bushfire; earthquake; flood; storm; cyclone; storm surge; landslide; tsunami; meteorite strike; or tornado.

    I have underlined a very significant part of this definition, because the chances of your property being the ONLY one to be struck by a “natural disaster” (Act of God) is as probable as your chances in winning lotto.

    Noneless, the cold hard truth remains that in Australia (as in many other countries) although most insurance companies cover SOME damage caused by such events, in general, there is nothing set in place to provide TOTAL coverage. For a few years now, with the increase in natural disasters in Australia alone, insurance council and governments have been discussing a review of insurance coverage offered to communities hit by such tragedies.

    http://www.dotars.gov.au/ndr/nat_disaster_report/exec_summary.htm

    Finally, in the event of a “natural disaster” (Act of God) you are not totally forgotten; true the government is not obliged to assist, but I daresay they will. Furthermore, there are a few organisations that can help with natural disaster claims; here is one of them:

    http://www.idro.com.au/about/default.asp

    At the end of the day Jess, please remember, you’re not alone!!!

    Cheers,[biggrin]

    Jo

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    What is fustrating is that insurance policies are forever changing. Exclusion clauses are becoming common-place. Soon, we will see insurance policies that cover everything EXCEPT damage to a property.

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    Ah yes, insurance policies are forever changing!

    I have just found that our policy does not cover the fence falling down due to wind or storm damage! Fences don’t often fall down for amny other reasons so they have certainly reduced the number of claims they will pay out.

    Never mind, we found out on an affordable item, thankfully. CommSec has just lost all our building insurance policies though becasue I can’t see any sense in having the fence covered if it doesn’t include damage by wind or storms.

    PK
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    Hey PK,

    How this though…..there are a couple of other insurance companies, I know of at least two, that in the event of a “natural disaster” (ie. cyclone) the property will not be covered, BUT (wait for it……) both the fence and gate posts are!!! Go figure…….[blush2]

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    I reckon if you are worrying about remote eventualities like this then perhaps property investing might not be your cup of tea.

    Just Do It.

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    Simon,

    I don’t think that the SES would support severe storms and wind destroying property being described as “remote”. It happens a lot!

    I would certainly not buy a car and not insure it as one silly mistake could force bankruptcy. The same applies to property. If I pay 500k for a property (and it was my only one) and then I don’t insure it, where do I pull the money from if it is destroyed? The income from the property would also be gone.

    Insurance is a CRUCIAL pary of any solid financial plan. This includes life, health, income protection and property.

    Robert Bou-Hamdan
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    Those are covered by insurance Rob, I was describingthe remote calamities such as Earthquakes, Tsunami’s and the like.

    I suggest that one should calculate the odds and then run with it.

    Wind and Bushfire can be decided by looking at history for an area to some extent.

    Cheers,

    Simon Macks
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    Hi Jo,

    Yep that’s a good one! Worse than my scenario. At least I can afford to replace the fence but hard luck for those that get a new fence but can’t afford to replace the house.

    Just shows that we do need to read the fine print, however boring it may seem at the time.

    PK

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