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Hi All,
Thanks everyone in advance – this site (+ books) have proven to be a godsend in uncluttering things so far!
(Quick background -> 4 friends looking to invest in property together. All put in an upfront bulk deposit and then committing to monthly additional cash input – we figure that we can build the portfolio much quicker as a group than as individuals?!).
So, I’m pretty new to all this and would appreciate some direction on a couple of issues.
As said, myself + 3 friends are looking into PI and in doing some initial research it has been difficult to work out the answers to a few questions.
1. What is the best set-up if four friends are interested into partnering for property investment?
– Trust/partnership/Company/other?It seems that the discretionary/unit Trust is the way to go – is this true?
2. How would this approach affect any single person within the group in being able to then qualify for the FHOG separately?
– Would we all be immediately ineligable for the Grant?
– Is there a way of setting things up so that we are still eligable?3. Some-one (apologies I forget who now) seemed pretty strong on advising against what we’re thinking of doing – i.e. going into PI with a group of friends?
– What are other peoples opinions?
– Main concerns?4. How does money lending/loan set-up work for a trust/partnership – is everyone individually responsible for securing a loan, or can a trust get a mortgage?
– What are the provisos for this (on an individual level in terms of approval)?– Any basic questions/advice that anyone can think of that we should definnitely not leave unanswered?
OK – I feel I’ve overloaded this already, so look forward to some feedback and ‘after’ that it might be a better time to ask more questions!
Thanks everyone in advance (again)
Cheers, John
A few quick points.
If none of the partners live in the property then it wont affect FHOG.
IMO it is detrimental to go into partnerships other than a spouse. Affects your borrowing ability as you are jointly responsile for the whole debt.
The trust can get a mortgage but each member will guarantor the loan. Therefore when each member goes for another loan the entire revious debt will be a liability.
There is also the fact you are depending on three other people.
I would prefer to go it alone, by all means help each other out and work together.
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so if someone in NSW purchases an investment property, and then plans to purchase a PPOR at a later date, would they still get an exemption from Stamp Duty + FHOG?
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ZPartnerships are not a good idea – in my opinion. You are best buying in one persons name, with a separate agreement drawn up. That way you can get the FHOG 4 times, and increase your borrowing capacity while decreasing risk.
Once you buy one each, you could then set up 4 different trusts – discretionary or Hybrid discretionary. Have one person as trustee for each trust/or director of the trustee company. all 4 could then be beneficiaries. When the loan is taken out only the director/trustee will be required to guarrantee it, leaving the borrowing capacities of the other 3 intact.
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