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  • Profile photo of cherubcherub
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    Hey guys,

    Need a bit of advice please –

    Im looking at a unit for around the 95k mark, which is currently leased by a Lodge – and as such the ad claims “a guaranteed” 525 rent return p/month until at least dec 2006.

    So the Lodge leases the unit out on a short term basis to its customers.

    Has anyone had a similar experience?

    This will be my first IP, so I need some help!!!

    Thanks,

    Cherub [biggrin]

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    Hi Cherub,

    While there is a degree of attraction in rental guarantees you will need to ensure that the sale prices reflects the wider market. It is not unusual for rental guarantees to be funded by a higher sale price and as such you could well be funding yourself.

    You will also need to find out who provides the guarantee – I have seen guarantees provided by insurance companies (HIH in one case) and by $2 shelf companies. Don’t let the ‘security’ of the guarantee seduce you.

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    Profile photo of cherubcherub
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    Thank for the reply Derek,

    I went to see the place this afternoon. Basically the complex is a budget motel – and each of the units/flats are individually owned. A national motel chain leases them from the owners. Its just off the Great Eastern Highway, which is the main route from the Airport (not far away) to Perth city.

    I dont see much capital growth though, and borrowing 80% of the purchase price @ 90k, its not +ve geared, so Im starting to think its not such a great idea.

    Profile photo of Michael RMichael R
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    As I have touched on in earlier posts, “guarantees” are generally nothing more than a marketing ploy.

    You are likely to find there is no solid “guarantee” due to the developer/lessor/guarantor having an out-clause or contingency to protect their interest.

    If there is no out-clause or otherwise, then I would avoid the deal because the party promoting the guarantee is open to debt/liability issues which may lead to their downfall and any guarantee becoming null and void.

    — Michael

    Profile photo of AceyduceyAceyducey
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    Cherub,

    The way rent guarantees can be guaranteed is by increasing the purchase price.

    So you are paying for the property PLUS the rental.

    Generally short-term rental properties have higher management fees & costs (more management required). Vacancy rates can be significantly higher & more dependent on the business or tourism cycle than standard rentals. Granted rentals are generally higher while the place is tenanted.

    Read all the fine print before you make a decision!

    Cheers,

    Aceyducey


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    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    these sorts of places are very hard to get finance too and this will hinder resales and effect values. I would not consider one of these deals myself.

    Terryw
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