$600 bonus

I don’t care what any of you spend the money on- pokies, ciggies, drugs, whatever. It’s not for me to judge what parents do with their money. I pay taxes, and it makes me happy that money is being spent on people. I don’t think it’s about good parents versus bad parents- it’s none of my business.

I think the only goosd thing about “private” money- as in money earned from wagesw etc… is that noone makes me justify what i spend my money on. The accountant doesn’t say to me at the end of the week “now kay, this money will be spent wisely, and not on drugs or alcohol, will it?” whereas public money seems to have some kind of moral strings attached to it. Well, not in my mind. Once it gets into your bank accounts, it’s none of my business. None of anyone’s business what I spend my wages on…. and none of my business what you spend your money on.

kay henry

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Actually, there’s been some verrry funny posts in this thread. If people can be bothered reviewing it, there’s some forum funnies in here. Ya have to wade through the usual [hmm] stuff, but there’s some great lines, and I think they were brought out by the [hmm] ones. Thanks for starting it, Sue!

kay henry

bleed ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bld)
v. bled, (bld) bleed·ing, bleeds
v. intr.
To emit or lose blood.
To be wounded, especially in battle.
To feel sympathetic grief or anguish: My heart bleeds for the victims of the air crash.
To exude a fluid such as sap.
To pay out money, especially an exorbitant amount.

To run together or be diffused, as dyes in wet cloth.
To undergo or be subject to such a diffusion of color: The madras skirt bled when it was first washed.
To show through a layer of paint, as a stain or resin in wood.
To be printed so as to go off the edge or edges of a page after trimming.

As we are speaking in the vernacular of ordinary people, I am wonder which of the above definitions of the word “bleed”, implies exclusivity to the female gender?

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I’ve been avoiding posting in this thread, but, Mortgage Adviser, I find your disgraceful generalisations about single mothers very insulting.

You see, my mum was single, and on welfare (at times), and yes, she may even have been on medication for depression. She and my father CHOSE to have two kids… the problem was that he died in a plane crash two months before I was born, leaving my mum on her own with me in her tummy and my 2 year old brother. She CHOSE to stay at home and look after her boys, because child care wasn’t an option, and her family lived far away. I’m sure she had male company from time to time, and I don’t begrudge her that for a second. I cannot even begin to comprehend how she managed to deal with such a tragedy. That she managed to raise 2 boys who are now both doing very well in life is a massive achievement, in my mind much bigger than anyone’s huge property portfolio, and one of my investment goals is to make sure she doesn’t go without anything as she gets older. (I’m 30, she’s 57 this year)

You cannot make rash generalisations and claim you’re coming from an educated standpoint, the two do not go together. It is impossible to judge someone without knowing the full story, and often there’s a fair bit more to it than your own blinkered “populist” views on single mums. Perhaps you’ve been watching too many of the Today Tonight ACA type shows that enjoy getting stuck into “bludgers” of various descriptions.

We share common ground in agreeing that public money can often be wasted, but I don’t think a small bonus for families is a waste for one second. If anything, the family unit needs to be fostered even more, because it’s one of the most important things in a society such as ours. In fact one of the things that used to be good about Australia was that we didn’t begrudge helping each other out, especially those less fortunate than ourselves. I’m no Christian, but I don’t sneer at people who are doing it tough either. Do you really think most people are really happy if they’re living in housing commission, trying to feed a tribe of kids on bugger all money? Your answer will be just “get a job” but it’s not always that simple.

There’s little doubt that some of the $600 per child bonus will be wasted, but I don’t believe most of it will. I think it’ll be gratefully accepted and put to good use.

You also seem to selectively ignore the recently annouced large tax cuts that favoured higher income earners as opposed to those on less than 50 grand. This equates to much more than $600 in these people’s pockets, and it doesn’t matter whether they’ve got kids or not. Fair enough too I say, since higher tax thresholds kicked in far too early.

Words on a screen don’t usually make me annoyed either, but in this case several of your comments did.

My point is that while people choose to have children, they don’t all choose the circumstance they find themselves in and to randomly criticise the masses from your office in Darlinghurst is repugnant in the extreme, and clearly ill-informed.

That’s all I’ve got to say.

r

The only post of yours I’ve ever deleted is one where I thought you unfairly abused Westan. In fact, that’s the only post I’ve deleted in months. Not that I have to justify myself to you anyway. The condescending tone of many of your posts is offensive quite a lot of time to quite a lot of the forum members, so no apology of any description is warranted.

r

OMG [crying]

My reference to “now we’re going gay” was about the developing conversation between WallFlower and MA. If my post could be interpreted by anyone as offensive I apologise. I simply mentioned it as another term used to generalise groups of people.

My giant baby is 14 (last Saturday). With a bit of struggling he still let’s his old mum cuddle him. He took me to see Shrek 2 on Sunday (yes… in public !!!) but won’t let me hold his hand crossing the road anymore though. At about 5’10” and with size 11 feet we’ve had to create a few new rules about our body slamming competitions and from now on when I say ‘I give up’ I MEAN IT!

BJ,

As I said, no offence taken. I just thought you were waiting on a reply from me, so I gave ya one

Awww, your kid sounds nice, BJ. At least this post has given me an opportunity to hear about all the parents on this forum and the feelings they have for their kids- it’s pretty nice

kay henry

BlackJack,

Its good to see the discussion getting back to this kids.

Amazing little (or big as the case may be) things aren’t they.

Good to hear your from Tassie – me too – What part?

Hey Matt,

Hobart (New Town). Moved here to go to Uni 7 years ago and still haven’t finished [blush2].

Where are you?