Who is the Most Effective Guru?

My Accountant.

And I have a few real estate agents I discuss matters with. And some family friends.

This forum and Books have confirmed what I initially thought.

Gurus are nothing to me.

I read a similar article in todays Financial Review

The answer is in your question
“…. They gave you strategies you applied… “

The most effective Guru is the one that finds the way into you head and makes you apply a properly thought strategy.

The best strategy in the world is worthless if you do not put it in practice. Even a half-cooked one applied from the heart will have great effect.

To put it into perspective, the message at a seminar must coincide with our timing. In other words, we must be ready and let us face it, we are not ready most of the time.

I was at a R K seminar once, one at which he went over the top insisting we are immersed in opportunities and we must keep our eyes open for such opportunities that can come in many different and unsuspected forms. On the way out some guy handed me a booklet and I stopped to give it a quick read. I observed that the guy who was handing out what happened to be a very well written and helpful report on personal develpment could hardly give any away.

Almost all the seminar attendees would snob him with a dismissive gesture and some even called him names like parasite and other niceties.

How could anyone see opportunities with such a load of bias and aggression? People like that go to a seminar expecting the presenter to reinforce their own preconceived ideas and rather than being teachable dismisses the guru as a fraud if it does not fit into their rigid mould.

My preferred Guru is Randy Gage, but he is not necessarily “the best” for everyone. In fact, some hate him. Why? Because what he told me via his tapes and e-mails helped me, what he told others rocked their comfort zone and that was not what they wanted.

May God prosper you always.[biggrin]
Marc

Hey Pisces and Wezwaz,

Honestly I think the most effective guru is
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…ME…[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]…hahah – I wish

…hey, if any of u wanna listen to me give advice, I’ll be conducting seminars at the Sheraton this weekend for a once only $29,995.00. But Hurry, tickets are limited – only 10,000 seats still left…

…[biggrin][biggrin]just stirring u all….hahahaha….[biggrin][biggrin]

“If You never never ask, you’ll never never know”

The problem I have with gurus is that they sell their seminars at $1000s because they can…. not because it’s good value…

In my eyes you can learn either self-tought through books, forums, failures, etc or coaching, where you get to spend time with a mentor or experienced friend on an ongoing basis.

The seminar belongs to the first category whereby the guru gives you a quick run-down of the system, drops a manual (often their books) in your hand and says “off you go…”, and there you are back to teaching yourself the given techniques.

The difference between the two methods of learning is that first requires a great deal more time, perseverence, courage and street smarts, wheres a mentor can fast track you to success through their guidance.

The only thing the guru seminar offers on top of what you can get from their books is the spark to take action, but this wears off quickly and even this you get out of a book as well.

The guru certainly won’t hold your hand on your first couple of years to get your bearings, so…. no mentor either.

If you want to get your spark attend the free preliminary seminars. I’ve never been to one of these without getting something out of it. These are certainly value for money [exhappy]

anyway… just an opinion

While I would agree that most property seminars are overpriced, and not value-for-money, if I had the time again I would still have gone to every one.

The reason I say this is the people I was able to meet and network with along the way. I have met some great like-minded people who have become great friends and business partners.

Unfortunately there are not too many organised property networking groups around so for me the seminars have been great.

It all depends on what you want to get out of it. If you spend 10k on a seminar, and get nothing out of it in terms of contacts and networking groups then yes, I can see how people would be disappointed.

Brendon

yes absolutely right, It’s difficult to resist, especially as a green horn… if the gurus are one in thing, they are excellent sales people… they know how to work a crowd… they know how to bring big emotions into the game…

but as we all know a sales persons intentions are not always to the very best for the cutomer [wink]

Hi Guys,

personally who does it for me is:

Robert Kiyosaki – for building the mindset
David Novac – for investors psychology

then its my entry & exit plans for each and every single investment, and following a set of simple rules.

this is just a simple guide, but both effective in shares and in property.

* Plan the trade
* Then trade the plan
* And stick to the Rules (this way, there is no emotion at all)

Cheers,
sis

ps.. some one who is emotional about investing, will show it in there cash management skills but will also, show it in there bank balance, compared to someone who sticks to the game plan and follow the rules…

… you will see there is, a definite difference in there bank balances and cash management skills

People 4get that by saving just $3 a day & investing it sensibly
over a working life, you’ll end up with around $1 million