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    Put your funds in a cash management trust.

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    >>Put your funds in a cash management trust.<<

    Parking one’s money there , yes I agree.

    Keeping it there isn’t going to solve one’s problems, not after firstly, paying tax on the interest earned and, secodnly, after allowing for inflation, how much has one actually advanced ?

    One will probably have gone backwards.

    Pisces

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    Hi all

    How about have children -from what i hear there could be a few dollars in it. ( a few years too late Thanks Mr Costello).

    Kay that saying “60% destitute and living on the pension”, what would there position be if there was no pension, maybe for some it would be destitute.

    i think the best and safest way is to buy cash positive homes that will appreciate in value. Buy in a coountry that has no stamp duty and no capital gains tax, You can then buy investment properties that you can fix up and pay no capital gains tax.

    And the idea of a Job (yuk, why prostitute yourself in working for someone who will tell you what to do all day,start your own business). WEhy give to someone else your most creative and energetic years of your life.

    Sorry a bit off hyperbole from me, (just to make a point).

    regards westan

    I find +ve cashflow deals in New Zealand which I sell to other investors. To be on my database send an e-mail to [email protected]

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    >>i think the best and safest way is to buy cash positive homes that will appreciate in value. <<

    All well and good Westan, but not really a solution for someone who is basically too old to wait that long.

    Pisces

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    And best of all, is what we are all trying to do….let our money work for us not us work for our money./…..an oldie but a goodie
    I am of course EZY with the concept of sitting back and watching my money grow[buz3]

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    >>I am of course EZY with the concept of sitting back and watching my money grow<<

    Good for you that you are young.

    However, in the present climate that watching business may for the next few years well be a lot more boring than watching grass grow .

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    Originally posted by westan:

    And the idea of a Job (yuk, why prostitute yourself in working for someone who will tell you what to do all day,start your own business).
    regards westan

    Hi westan,

    Can I ask how old you are?

    I noticed in a previous post you only just stopped working for a boss this year…

    I guess hindsight is always 20/20 [blush2]

    Best wishes,

    Jay

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    Originally posted by westan:

    Hi all

    And the idea of a Job (yuk, why prostitute yourself in working for someone who will tell you what to do all day,start your own business). WEhy give to someone else your most creative and energetic years of your life.

    Westan, I’m selecting the same quote as Jay did, because I want to add that not every job is a form of prostitution!
    If you ‘sell’ your time to make the world a better place, or to safely make money, using your creativity, why would that be a bad thing to do?

    OK starting your own business has many benefits, but it doesn’t suit everyone.
    And a lot of businesses fail-it can be risky and it is not always that easy.

    Many people like their job and do see it as a safe way to make money, without the hassle and risk of running their own business.

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    westan :O)

    I copmpletely agree that we should have a pension- absolutely! My query was about the use of that statistic. It’s derived from the 1996 census, and I think people should be updating their data. I do know that those kind of statistics have been used to scare people into get rich quick programs.

    Well, if a job is all about prostitution, then just call me a big ol’ hooker :O)) Tell me, why would anyone bother to become trained or skilled in any area if they didn’t want to do that during their lives? Carpenter, mechanic, librarian… perhaps these people love wood, cars, books… Why are we prostitutes because we love what we do? Guess it’s good to be a happy hooker though, than a sad one.

    kay henry

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    Hi pisces…Do you call 58 young. Oh how lovely,
    I wish my mirrow said the same.
    We are at the moment pooling our ideas and information,
    Why not pool our money ? we could realy do some thing then…I would put my hand up to control all that lovely mulla
    The old saying Money makes Money
    can you think of a better idea?No idea is stupid, it just needs thinking about …I would love for some one ,any one to [argue][argue] share there ideas, come on young and old lets get together and have a competition …Who is willing to share their ideas..Its EZY to start.[baaa]

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    Hi Ezy.home.loans,

    personally, for me its how quickly i can move money around, the faster i can move money around, the more money that can be made, for example…

    the money goes in one deal, and then comes out again, but at the same time, so does the profit, move on to the next deal and keep putting money in, and then taking it out and collecting the profit at the same time…

    … honestly i dont know, but the faster i can move money around, the quicker it grows quickly, but all the profits that can be taken and grabbed along the way too, are reinvested as fast as they are taken out…

    Cheers,
    sis

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    over a working life, you’ll end up with around $1 million

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    sis, in practical terms, does this mean that, for example, you sold some of the 12 IP’s that you bought in 2003 and 2004, and then reinvest the money? “moving money around” sounds all good, but what does it actually mean in practise? If I said the easiest and safest way to make money (as per title) is to “move it around”, I think people might want to know what that means.

    kay henry

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    so no one has a great idea yet…let me tell you how to save money you didn’t know you had , its simple and effective.
    just an [e.g.] if you go shopping with $200 dollars in your pocket and expect to spend the lot
    look for bargains [say] a new pair of shoes selling at $80 on sale for $50 ..take the $80 from pocket A and put the savings $30 in pocket B
    do the same with all your purchases only using the money you started with in pocket A…over the course of the day you might have saved $100 which is now in pocket B do not spend this as it is now a bonus savings ..You have bought exacly what you wanted and saved $100 over a year if you saved this amount you would now have $5200 in your pocket B its that EZY.[buz2]a fortune is waiting to be found in your own pockets.[specool]A.

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    Hi Kay,

    ill try to give the best example, try picturing a share trading chart…

    theres a share, that steadily inclines, and increases upward over many months…

    theres also a second share, that is going sideways, continously its going up and down and the share is quite volitile, but also its following the trend of the first share were its heading the same direction of increased inclince over many months…

    the trick here is to buy the share at entry level and profit at the top of the peak and keep, following this cycle as the trend pushes forward and inclines upwards over the many months…

    this is the same thing that just happened with the property market, excellent and huge capital gains were to be made, but instead to many and many investors, from novice to mums and dads… were chasing around the +ve cashflow properties… when they were missing the boom occuring…. and the huge capital gains that were made and then reinvested back into the market for more quick profit and fast bucks…

    i dont know, if im quite clear… in what im trying to explain, but money that doesnt move, or that sits around, gets eaten away each day, due to inflation and as the CPI increases, that money is worth less against the indexed prices… of all goods… but keeping and moving money continously… you can beat and be ahead of the market… and always be knowing your money is increasing…. due to beating the odds and trends…

    the trend is your friend….

    Cheers,
    sis

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    Originally posted by Still in School:

    the trend is your friend….

    …until it ends.

    http://www.tradingforaliving.info

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    sis, yes, i understand the shares example- I got Jamie McIntyre’s video too- and i watched it, just like you did. That example was from his video.

    It’s just that you bought all those properties, and if you’re saying the following:

    “…the money goes in one deal, and then comes out again, but at the same time, so does the profit, move on to the next deal and keep putting money in, and then taking it out and collecting the profit at the same time…”

    … then I’m just wondering does that mean you have sold off IP’s (therefore having to pay 100% CGT on properties sold under 1 year of ownership). How does this “moving money around” work in a practical sense? Sorry if my question wasn’t clear before. I could give people all manner of examples of how to do things from videos and textbooks, but I just want to know how it works for you.

    kay henry

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    another quick example is…

    theres a person who buys a property, puts $20k in to purchase a $100k property… property goes boom, and the person holds on…

    ideally, i would take my profits and run and reinvest it into the next boom, now i have both my profits to invest with, but also my orginal capital to begin with… and then with a little diversification and reinvesting…

    try to time and grab the next boom and repeating what im doing…

    but if you just simply hold on, and hold on to the capital gains your making, but dont make any move to sell, soon or later you will realise, that the boom will be over and prices all around you will have crept up, and that your money is now, useless due to the increase in price in everything…

    Cheers,
    sis

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    Hi Kay,

    lol… i didnt even know thats in Jamies Video… i thought he was just all about cover calls…

    oh well…

    ok, one way that this can easily be done is, apply for a loan for an investment property, let it perform, after some performance, refinance and take out the orginal capital you began with, go to another bank or use your same existing bank and reinvest that same capital into another growth property and just repeat the cycle, keep money aside to fund what negative and outflow costes you might have and just keep repeating…

    Cheers,
    sis

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    hi all

    to answer a few questions
    Jay and celivia and kay
    i’m 40 (yuk i hate too say that just turned 40 a few weeks ago, 39 now sounds so young).
    Celivia said
    If you ‘sell’ your time to make the world a better place, or to safely make money, using your creativity, why would that be a bad thing to do?
    i agree 100%, it certainly isn’t a bad thing at all. and to the other points i agree with you ladies. However if people are employed in jobs they no longer enjoy there are many other options. Far better doing something you like (even if you are paid less) than doing a high payed job you hate, but stick at it because you are captured by the money.
    i’m the first to agree that money shouldn’t be the basis of what you do for work. i worked for 7 years doing work that was low paid.
    i was more making a point don’t waste your life in a job especially if its not your passion or help you achieve your passion. if you are just doing it for the money there are better ways to make money.

    Wayne L , good to see you back on the forum, always enjoy your contributions.

    SiS i’m with the others here, what are you doing, all this shifting the money as fast as you can sound sorta expensive to me, all the entry costs exist costs, i want to sell more but i’ll wait for the next financial year and get the tax benifits, i think kay has a good point about the 50% exemption for holding for one year.

    SIS if you want to move the $$$ around look for a country that has low entry cost (no Stamp duty) and no CGT.

    regards westan

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