Originally posted by Pisces:
>>tall, dark, handsome, in possession of a job and money in the bank.<<
Any age group ?
So how much would an introduction to someone like that be worth to you Mel ? []
Pisces
I forgot to mention fit also. If fit, then preferably under 45! Older than 20 though – very broad range!!![]
Have you got a candidate? Another point – must be unmarried!!!!!!!!!! Single would be better also, don’t really want to deal with that other partner problem.
Mel, before I summarise what exactly you are looking for let me first ask you whether your present partner is aware that you ‘are on the lookout’ ? (or at least considering your options) []
O.K. here is a summary :
tall, dark, handsome, in possession of a job and money in the bank, agegroup minimum age 20, maximum age not specified, single (or at the least unmarried).
I don’t quite understand your words “If fit, then preferably under 45!”.
Does that mean that if he is 45 or over he can be unfit and yet qualify ?
What do you mean by ‘dark’ ?
Suntanned ? Black hair? Chinese ? African ? Greek ?What ?
I also note that you haven’t as yet addressed whether you want him to have a lot of hair on his chest.
Do you mind if he is a TV addict ?
A smoker or a non smoker ?
Do you mind someone who absolutely loves garlic ?
Are you looking for a good dancer or is it O.K. if he has two left feet ?
You haven’t even touched the subject whether you want him to be a good handyman.
To answer your question as to whether I know any candidates, the answer is “Yes, I know oodles of guys”.
I am just trying to sort out the undesireables from the ‘must have’ types. I would say that I only have to spread the word and they will be queuing up. [:o)]
>.the spotting fee must be enormous bearing in mind all those requirements!<<
If a deal is a good deal the spotter is entitled to more than a mere $ 1,000 or so.
There seems to be a reluctance to pay a reasonable fee.
However, look at it this way.
If, after having done some homework, you decide upon a particular town as being of interest, what does it cost you to spend a week or so looking at properties there ?
Hotel costs, extra costs in food, petrol and wear and tear on the car, economic cost (i.e. not earning any money during that period) AND nevertheless no guarantee of actually finding a suitable property.
To have someone take that responsibility off one’s shoulders must be worth a lot more than a mere $ 1,000.
what I was trying to say was that there are always deals that are better than average and those are the sort I go for.
As far as the fee goes, I think it’s about right compared to other independent bird-dogs and for the price-range of properties. If we add up our costs and time and find it’s not enough, or we have too much demand and not enough deals, we might put it up, who knows, but for now, we’re all good.
I have heard of 4-5000 bird dog fees for one property. !!!!!! And they do a valuation.
Valuation is critical in capital gainsville I guess, if you are trying to convince a client that they are buying ‘under market value’.
But I think that is such a crock anyway.
Why wouldn’t the vendor sell it at this supposed ‘market value’ rather than to you at 20 percent discount?
Well the answer is because you aren’t getting a discount, you’re buying at market value, because , as the successful purchaser you are the market.
‘Mel, before I summarise what exactly you are looking for let me first ask you whether your present partner is aware that you ‘are on the lookout’ ? (or at least considering your options) []’
I would hope so. I have ‘broken up’ with him about 3 times so far, and see him maybe once every three weeks, but he still does call me almost every day, and generally twice a day. He asked me what I wanted for Valentine’s day? I told him nothing and went to the movies with a friend (we were looking to avoid the heat – Canberra’s hottest day this year at 38.7 so we did well – 3 1/2 hours in air con – lovely). He hasn’t rung me since!!
O.K. here is a summary :
tall, dark, handsome, in possession of a job and money in the bank, agegroup minimum age 20, maximum age not specified, single (or at the least unmarried).
I don’t quite understand your words “If fit, then preferably under 45!”.
Max age 45, must be fit – all ages.
Does that mean that if he is 45 or over he can be unfit and yet qualify ?
Nope. I’m sick of guys almost 20 years older. I want somebody who is still prepared to ‘live a little’. Yes I know there are some good ones, but ‘been there, done that, didn’t like it’.
What do you mean by ‘dark’ ?
Suntanned ? Black hair? Chinese ? African ? Greek ?What ?
Not sure. That’s just the standard phrase isn’t it? Suntanned is good, but not leathery. Hair colour doesn’t matter (did I say he had to be reasonably intelligent? he does!).
I also note that you haven’t as yet addressed whether you want him to have a lot of hair on his chest.
Take it as it comes. If it’s a ‘lot’, I can always ‘encourage’ him to wax!! (My brother got his back waxed recently – ouch!)
Do you mind if he is a TV addict ?
NO, just so long as he doesn’t stay up ‘all night’. He should have ‘other’ things he’s interested in doing[]
A smoker or a non smoker ?
Preferably Non.
Do you mind someone who absolutely loves garlic ?
Doesn’t matter. If he wants to cook it, I’ll probably eat it too.[]
Are you looking for a good dancer or is it O.K. if he has two left feet ?
Doesn’t matter. Don’t go many places that require dancing. At my sister’s wedding the above mentioned fellow was drunk as a skunk before the wedding anyway, so there was definitely no dancing for me, except with the best man.
You haven’t even touched the subject whether you want him to be a good handyman.
Doesn’t matter. I still get Dad to fix all my stuff anyway[]
To answer your question as to whether I know any candidates, the answer is “Yes, I know oodles of guys”.
I am just trying to sort out the undesireables from the ‘must have’ types. I would say that I only have to spread the word and they will be queuing up. [:o)]
Prop 16, I’m thinking this fee would probably be quite a bit more than Mini’s fee for finding a property[?]
indeed mel, due diligence on potential victims (oops, I meant partners) is not only costly but time -consuming, as time is money….
Leigh and I are therefore not intending to provide a bird-dogging service for Australian men at this time as we believe them to be overpriced at this time and therefore not cashflow positive.
Anecdotal evidence now, but personally, the best deals on partners I have found to be the ones where I threw due diligence out the window and bought on a gut instinct, with no money down. These kind of deals often turn out to be priceless, achieving infinite returns – with all the beauty of no money down deals and the magic and synergy of a successful joint venture.
Just thinking about the posts I read about New Zealand guys having to return home as they will no longer qualify for the dole in Australia.
That means, Mini, that there will be a surplus of New Zealand guys who would like to get married to an Aussie girl so as to obtain proper residential status.
This also means Mini that you will have a large supply of such males to offer.
As these types aren’t particularly good prospects (I didn’t want to use the term ‘second rate’) you may be able to charge the same fee as you anticipate to charge for houses Mini and still make a good profit ? [:o)]
“This also means Mini that you will have a large supply of such males to offer.”
Good point, Pisces. In fact the NZ Govt don’t want to be saddled with the burden of – ahm, ‘second rate citizens’ for want of a better term returning home to bludge there instead, so they have outsourced it to the private sector, to businesses such as Leigh and my NZBirddogs business, to attempt to relocate said SRCs exactly in the manner you suggest.
“As these types aren’t particularly good prospects (I didn’t want to use the term ‘second rate’)”
As you know, the lower down the market you go, often the better the yields. Often, NZ males can be wonderful if you are prepared to spend a little money on a cosmetic makeover, as most are structurally sound and well built, able to stand many years of…ahm….
use for their intended purpose.
‘you may be able to charge the same fee as you anticipate to charge for houses Mini and still make a good profit ?’
We have decided to charge several times the amount. With our property bird-dogging service, the chance of repeat business is high. However with the NZ Male bird-dogging service, firstly the market is 50 percent smaller give or take the gay contingent, and secondly we are not expecting that much repeat business.
cheers-
Mini
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Hey Mini,
One of my best friends is in Canberra with work. Great guy! non-smoker, 25 (i think?? young pup anyway) very fit, very funny.. if you’re keen send me an e-mail and i’ll make sure that he’s still single?? (haven’t spoken for a few weeks, might be taken?)
anyway,
what’s the worst that could happen? good cup of coffee and you guys don’t gel?
Have fun,
itsa [email protected]
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