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  • Profile photo of DaisiiDaisii
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    @daisii
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    We have been told that our negatively geared IP should be in my husband’s name only as he earns an income but I don’t and so don’t pay any income tax. This would supposedly mean a greater tax return for my husband. Is this true? If the house is currently in both names how do we go about changing it? Do we need to change both the title and mortgage? Is there anyway I can show that I still have an interest in the property?

    Profile photo of --Brett--–Brett–
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    Daisii,

    It’s true, your husband would be able to claim a bigger deduction if the property was all in his name. However, if you to change the ownership it will trigger a stamp duty payment, just like selling your half to him.

    The other longer term point to consider is if/when you plan to sell. Lets use the following scenario:
    1. You’ve held it for more than twelve months in joint names.
    2. Your husband earns $50k pa, you earn $0
    3. You decided to sell for a profit of $60k (after fees).

    Scenario 1- Joint names.
    1. you split the capital gain and receive the 50% capital gains discount.
    Your capital gain = $30k
    Your taxable income = $0 + $30,000/2
    = %15,000
    Your tax = $1560 (approx)
    Profit after tax = $13440

    Your husbands capital gain = $30k
    His taxable income = $50k + $30,000/2
    = $65,000
    His Tax= $18360
    Income + profit after tax = $46,640
    Total combined Cash flow = $13440 + $46,640
    = $60,080

    Scenario 2: Property in husband’s name
    All the capital gain is taxable in his name
    Your income $0, tax $0
    His income = $50k + $60,000/2
    = $80k
    His Tax = $27,792
    Income + profit = $52,208
    Total combined profit = $0 + $52,208

    So by holding it in his name only, you would be $8,000 worse off the year you sell. You need to determine if the yearly tax deduction plus the price of stamp duty to transfer is greater than this.

    Hope that makes sense, sorry it’s so long. If you can’t follow it feel free to email me some specifics and i’ll plug them into a spreadsheet i’ve set up for this stuff.

    Brett.
    [email protected]

    btw, i used a free tax withheld calculator from the ato web site to calcualte the tax.
    This isn’t advice

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