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Steve McKnight
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June 27, 2003 - 6:45 am
Greetings,
I received this e-mail today. The text in red is what really caught my attention…
quote:
The thing that stops most people from becoming financially independent is… they never start.
If you have decided that this year WILL be different, that you will take control of your financial affairs and start an investment program, the <<name edited by admin>> Intensive Wealth Building Process is ideal for you.
Over the next twelve months my team and I will work closely with you to create and implement your personal investment strategy, moulded to your
individual needs.
We start on 12th and 13th July with a fabulous weekend at the Mansion Hotel, Werribee Park.
This unique package, valued at more than $10,000 is available for only $1950 per person and $3300 per couple. You will also receive a $2500 discount when you purchase a hand picked and highly recommended investment property.
I’ve heard of back-ending property as a result of a free seminar, but now it seems you have to pay for the privilege.
Cheers,
Steve McKnight
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Smokey
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June 27, 2003 - 8:22 am
Having attended a recent Henry Kaye National Investment Institute investment program….. I can also suggest that investors be wary of the many support services offered by these programs.
The support services are heavily promoted and an added expense on top of the very expensive seminar fee of 16k…. which is really just the first of many fees and charges you will have to cover to get access to these “fantastic investment opportunities.” Fees that range from 1.5k up to 55k for “advanced” investment programs.
This is probably the most amazing aspect of Henry Kayes money making machine… the National Investment Institute…. He has developed a system where a number of related and seemingly unrelated business’s are feeding off the unwary investors. Surprisingly he has also managed to rope in top level legal and accounting specialists from reputable firms who also deliver support.
hwd007
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June 27, 2003 - 8:35 am
Yea i walked out of the PMG meeting cause I refused to sign their non disclose agrement. As if it’s rocket science! ABC Four Corners, was not too complemenrary about them either.
Smokey
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June 27, 2003 - 9:21 am
The best approach in these situations is to make a strong statement up front that you can return to easily… before the sales pitch gains momentum. Believe me, these people are very persuasive and if you read the Four Corners transcript you will see they are also using quite sophisticated techniques to manipulate your responses, ie, the “anti-sell” and “create pain” etc.
Start the conversation by stating that “I’m here for information only and I will not be signing any agreements or contracts tonite…. I need 2-3 days to consider my financial position.”
At this point they will agree with you but may make other offers…. such as signing up but deferring the payments for a few months while you sort the financials… They don’t give up..!!
You have to be strong…… I wasn’t …. but I have got enough out of the seminar to add value to my investment properties (2) and increase my knowledge.
Don’t sign up on the night….!!
ksheather
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June 27, 2003 - 10:04 am
Fools and their money are soon parted
I signed up for the wrap seminar live yesterday, lets hope im not a fool for doing so
hwd007
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June 27, 2003 - 11:51 am
yea I never sign up to anything on the first offer. i go away and tell them i will contact them when it suits me and if i miss out well bad luck.
jars11
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June 27, 2003 - 2:59 pm
ksheather, thanks for the chuckle, makes for good reading[:0)]. I signed up days agoooooooooooooo
Jars
MiniMogul
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June 28, 2003 - 12:23 am
what is a ‘four corners transcript’? I would like to read it.
cheers-
Mini
Stuart Wemyss
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June 28, 2003 - 12:44 am
Hi Mini
See https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1105
Cheers
Stu
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DaveC
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June 28, 2003 - 6:14 am
Hi everyone
What about Steve’s wrap seminar on 26 July!!!!
Look forward to seeing you all there……….
Take care
Dave []
Yarra
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June 29, 2003 - 8:17 am
Many seminars are worthwhile especially considering that just one idea can save or make thousands when investing large sums of money. Although it would be more pallatable if the cost could be realistic. Check this out for value! http://www.success.com/dtl.php?GetProduct=5466&offer=546942
Unfortunately some seminar presenters promote “get rich quick” so they can through selling seats.
Steve McKnight
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June 29, 2003 - 11:23 pm
Hi,
Many of the US seminars have low entry costs because they backend product.
Such seminars are just really sales pitches.
I’ve had first hand experience with a few of these…
Cheers,
Steve McKnight
**********
Remember that success comes from doing things differently.
**********
Steve McKnight | PropertyInvesting.com Pty Ltd | CEO
https://www.propertyinvesting.com
Success comes from doing things differently
Smokey
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June 30, 2003 - 3:48 am
Mini……… for Four Corners transcript see http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s836869.htm…… Its a report (program transcript) into the investment seminar industry and worth a read before you make any commitments.
Good luck…!
caloc