Well, we got game. We told them $430k was too much, and offered $415k in negotiations (based upon the fact that termites had once been there, and that we’d need to do some things to some guttering etc).
They didn’t like that, at all – so we walked away. Days later, we got a call from the real estate agent saying they’d be happy with $423k. We told them it was still too much and that they were not being realistic.
Days later, they said $420k. We said still too much. We told them $416k. They said $419k. We said $418k.
Well, the story continues. The building + pest inspection people called me back. The photos prove that the main structure is indeed steel, but he’s also told me not to be fooled/have the wool pulled over my eyes by the owners/real estate agent. According to him, given the damage has been found in door jams and architraves, he is still obligated to carry out a more invasive borer-scope inspection.
The owner has crawled all over the roof (and inside it) to prove that the house is indeed a steel frame. They are sending the photos to the building + pest inspectors to prove it.
Waiting on the deliberation from the building + pest people, plus the quotes from building + pest to repair/fix the problems with the house, so far.
I got a call from the real-estate agent this afternoon. They’ve been told by the owner that the construction is a steel frame, and on this basis, doesn’t need an invasive Borer-scope done on the place.
This in itself is interesting. Apparently they have no proof of it though, so it’s been requested by the building + pest people we’ve hired.
So the story goes, steel frame homes are impervious to the ravages of termites, structurally – but I am unsure about how all of this works.
All the more reason to be bargaining downwards and moving away from your original offer.
Yup. Having never done this before, are we displaying “poor form” by making the offer they’d hope we’d make, to get it off the market, then doing the investigation and driving the house down in price?
I don’t want everyone to come away from the deal with a bad feeling, tis all.
Yup. Waiting on the quotes for repairs, let alone the borer-scope. I think we can knock 20k off without too much drama! That said, depends on how motivated the seller is. We’ve been lead to believe that the current owners need to get out _fast_….
Just remember your clause in the contract – don't feel obligated to purchase unless you're 100% confident with your decision.
At the end of the day it's your decision – the agent will try his/her best to persuade you, that's their job.
And remember, each and every day more properties are listed for sale ("There's plenty of fish in the sea")…
You’re right. There really are. QLD might be growing out of control, but we are fortunate. We live in a country where there is still feasibly plenty of space left for everybody, for the most part!
I'd also side with the comments made by other forum members.
You mentioned that it's cheaper than anything else in the area that is similar – think about why…
If we just consider PPORs for a moment, nobody want's to buy someone else's problem (this applies whether its a car, business or house)…the exception here is if you're fixing a problem to provide a solution – eg: Reno's…
Additionally, how long has it been on the market, have other potential buyers enquired in detail and backed away due to what was found ??
While it is true that termites can be completely eradicated, and the damage rebuilt, you're still buying a product that has at one time or another had faults and serious concerns…can you live with this ??
At the end of the day, the decision is yours to make – we can only provide our opinion towards your situation, be it positive or negative…I hope it's helped
All the best with your future purchase, where ever it may be.
Cheers,
Darren
Hi. Well said, I think.
It was on the market 2 days, and seemingly had a LOT of interest, which is why we put an offer down so quick. We felt, being eager young first home buyers, that we should try and get the jump on others, as soon as it popped up. I guess maybe we were a bit naive?
I feel at this stage, it somewhat hangs on the results of the borer-scope inspection work. I’ll keep you guys updated as to how things go. You’ve been really good to me, so I feel it’s only fair to keep you up to date on it, so that others might learn from my mistakes!
I live and work in Forest Lake. Honestly depending on where the termite damage is I would possibly walk away. I have purchased my own home in Forest Lake. My house did have previous termite damage HOWEVER it was outside in a small plank of wood in the very small retaining wall. So I continued to buy it.
Having said that, I have seen properties fall apart due to termite damage (I work in rentals for a real estate).
If you were to continue with the purchase, I would be obtaining a quote to put ina new barrier adn confirm it does have a guarentee on it. Quote on repairing the termite damage and then turn around and ask the sellers to etiher do the above / drop the asking price by the amount or walk away.
Termites in Forest Lake don't go away. It was the construction guys here, when building Forest Lake they just demolished all the massiv termite mounds out here and then started building, so there are termites everywhere.
Sorry to be bearer of bad news though. Hopefully you will find another place, but Forest Lake is a great place to live! There is also a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom place next to me for sale for waaaay less than what you paid, I know it has a pool too! You are looking at UNDER $360k for next door!
Wow. . Epic fail, by the sounds of it.
I can tell you now, the termite damage found is on a small architrave inside the door of the living room. It *seems* like a small bit of damage, but this is why we want to exercise significant due diligence to find out the real extent of the damage, if there is any significant damage.
We are getting quotes on the new barrier. Also getting quotes on the damage repair.
As for price – wow, now I’m depressed. The place really did “feel” like it was worth this much – as the kitchen was very new, and the whole place seemed pretty polished on the inside.
We will see how the damage comes out, and what the quotes come to I guess. If we’ve got too much damage on important parts of the building, I think we should run away as quick as we came! I guess that is the point of the “subject to building + pest” inspection clause .
Bummer, sounds like a nice place and I bet you have fallen for it! Yeah, I'd do a runner. Its a lot to spend on your first house and have the thought termite damage in the back of your mind all the time. Termites are a fact of life for most of Oz but there are plenty of homes not affected. Plus the drainage issues…whats next? Does it smell mouldy? I bet its been recently painted Too many questions for 400 plus big ones. Good luck and keep looking.
Indeed, it WAS recently painted actually, and the building and pest guy said this in a suspect way to us!
So for the majority, people think I should walk away from this one?
On the outset, it looked like a good buy, simply because of the 20k++ pool installation and that on the surface, 20km from the city, with a new train line going in was a good deal…