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Yes Kye, additional repayments can be made to the I/O loan (assuming it is variable, not fixed).
BUT
A better strategy might be to place the funds into the 100% offset account against this loan. This way the funds are available whenever needed, and you pay the same amount of interest as if you had paid the funds off the loan directly.
This advice assumes that you have good discipline and will not just spend the money because it is there! You have to think of money in the offset account as equity.
Regards,
Steve.Hi Ben,
A couple of things to consider:
1. What is your current income, and what total loan amount do you think the bank will allow you for the next property? This can be determined by simply asking the banks or mortgage brokers.
2. The bank may not consider the value of the property to be the same as your estimate – Make sure you have some comparable sales for properties in the area, and provide these to the bank when you apply for the new loan. This will determine the equity you have for the next place.
3. As you presumably do not have much additional cash at the moment (because you put a fair amount into the first purchase), you will most likely need to borrow over 80% of the purchase price of the next property. Make sure you include Lenders Mortgage Insurance as a cost in your calculations when looking at the next property.
4. Unless you are on a substantial salary, the tax concessions for the property you already own may not be that significant. This means that the property you already have is likely to be negatively geared, and may make it difficult to purchase another one – Make sure you do all the calculations for the monthly costs against your current income to make sure you don't overextend yourself with your next purchase.
I don't mean to be discouraging, and I think its greated that you have purchased a property early in life, but I also think it is important to know what the potential speed bumps will be along the way.
Let us know your thoughts as you progress with the idea.
Regards,
Steve.Kye,
Have a look around the site for info on interest only vs principal and interest loans.
It is generally accepted that I/O loans are more effective because they provide maximum cash flow advantages and flexibility for future changes of plan.
Also ensure that you get a 100% offset account with each of the loans. This will allow you to build up a cash base against the loan rather than paying the loan off, which can be especially advantageous if you ever decide to turn your PPOR into an IP.
Regards,
Steve.Hahaha – I'll have to wear one next time
Nice to meet you D, and all the others of course. Sorry to those who I missed (my fault for rocking up late!)
Thanks for organising aaabbbccc – great work! By the way… I shall now be referring to you as aabbcc at all times (or until you tell me it's annoying!)
Look forward to catching up again!
Cheers,
Steve.Hi Rich,
I wasn't going to go into too much detail (hence the request to PM for more info), but I did one last week without PG's.
They are assessed on a case by case basis, and the PG requirement can be waived in certain circumstances.
Regards,
Steve.Depending on serviceability and LVR, I might be able to do a SMSF lend without PG's.
PM me if you are still interested.
Regards,
Steve.How good was the NAB's comments about "We will limit any rate increases to the same amount as the RBA".
They got all the good press and didn't even have to make good on the promise when rates stayed stagnant – haha.
Although I do worry about the reduced profitability of NAB, and wonder if the amount of increased business will outweigh the cut in margin.
Thanks Rich.
The flat decision could perhaps also be due to some banks passing on more than the previous 25 point RBA rate rises last year. This generally cools the jets of the microeconomy for a while – It's almost like the banks doing the RBA's job as the majority of 'interest rate' related transactions for average families are through the bank in the form of home loans, personal loans, business loans etc.
Rates could still go up in the coming months, but we will have to wait for the meeting minutes to know the RBA's full thought process. Personally I don't really mind either way…
It's okay to borrow maximum for an IP as long as u have an IO loan and an offset account (and some discipline!)
I think a lot of the younger couples have difficulty leaving their cash in the offset account and not spending it, so I have recommended P&I loans to a few people I know.
Better to have untouchable equity at the expense of a tax deduction if the cash will be spent on lifestyle items…
Also there is a chance that one of the properties was overvalued before… This would cause one to go up (which was probably correct before), and the other to go down.
Not saying that this is what happened, but i've seen a few property valuation decreases in the last couple of years.
I believe NAB uses PMI now.
Not sure if they are related to QBE in any way, but still.
Someone quite close to me got ripped off by a scam like this… Despite how amusing these scams are, I can't even bare to laugh at the guy considering making the payment.
On the offchance that this comment actually makes a difference… PLEASE DON'T DO IT!
GOM – Perhaps shahabr knows something the bank doesn't? Okay…maybe not, but I have seen many people re-sell property for much more than the bank valuation only a short time after settlement.
By nature, the bank valuers are conservative and are becoming more so due to audit requirements. They aren't always wrong, but if there aren't many comparable sales in the area then sometimes the valuation can be a little off.
Not spam mate – just interested.
Used to learn a lot from certain people a few years back and just wonder where they are.
Why so cynical?
I can make it there too…
I can make it there too…
Hi Sarah,
When they say you "can't refinance for an increased mortgage" to pay for an investment property, they are most likely referring to tax deductibility.
As the veterans on this forum are often quoting, tax deductibility depends upon the "use of the funds"
eg:
If you borrow $300k to purchase an IP, the full amount is deductible.
If you then pay off $50k and re-draw it again to buy shares (an investment), the full amount is again deductions.
If you then pay off $50k and re-draw it again to buy a motorbike (for personal use), only the $250k is deductible.With regards to your second scenario, I believe the re-drawn funds would only be deductible whilst the property was an investment, once you move into it, it is no longer deductible.
Full points for trying though…
Sounds about right – My sums showed around $6,360 off the home loan based on $100k LOC… I suppose it depends what interest rate you use in your calcs.
Love your work sprunk – that's what negotiating is all about, and you get better at it very quickly. You will get different reactions from different agents and start to get a feel for what price they think the property will go for.
I also totally agree with DW and GOM – let them stew over it for a while! The worst that can happen is that they sell the property for a higher price than you were willing to pay, and you go look for another deal.
If they call you back, and you are still willing to pay $260k, then make sure you negotiate terms that are more favourable and comfortable to you as you are now the one with the power!
God I love negotiation LOL!