Just a few quick words of advice from someone who started investing around the same age as you:
– If you end up purchasing more than one investment (my preference if at all possible), make sure they are different types of property. For instance, buy a two bedroom unit with a strong yield, and perhaps a 3 or 4 BR house with maybe a slightly lower yield but a large land content. There are several benefits with differentiating your portfolio from an early stage.
-Push yourself to the limits of what you can afford (without going overboard), and stay at home with mum and dad as long as possible (I stayed until nearly 24). When you do finally move out, IT IS OKAY TO RENT. Your parents and most friends will tell you that rent money is dead money, but it frees up your cash flow. A close friend of mine is 26 and she has around $1.1mil of equity in various properties throughout Victoria, but no home of her own! Do you think she cares? I would refer you to the section in Steve's book about "Lifestyle assets versus Investment assets" if you have it*
-If you are disciplined enough (and I stress IF), then borrow on a Variable Rate basis with an Interest Only loan that has an offset account attached. There are several good reasons for this which you can research further through the forums using the search function. If you decide that you need the security of a fixed rate loan, then borrow a PORTION of the loan as fixed, not all of it. The reason for this is that fixed rate home loans can not have an offset account, which will provide complications if you ever decide to move into one of the properties, and then want to change it back to a PPOR later.
– Lastly, in regards to climbingjac's point above, some tenants are just plain bad! You have to be aware that from time to time you will get a dodgy tenant who will have no respect for your place, and may decide to stop paying rent – Be prepared for this by using conservative rental figures in your calculations – ie: when working out yields, perhaps base rental on 48 or 50 weeks of the year rather than 52. Another thing to consider is Landlord's insurance which you can research on the net.
I could probably go on for another hour, but it's probably better for me to answer any other queries you have as they arise.
The advice above is more direct than what I would normally give, which I have some very good reasons for, but don't take my word as gospel – Interpret what I have said and feel free to challenge me on it. (I am sure others will! )
Have you got any idea about what sort of property the mine itself would be interested in?
Do they tend to purchase houses or units, and would they buy in the township itself, or perhaps say 10-15 mins out of town and a bit closer to the mine?
So what is the point of a supplmental deed then? Is this only for amending clauses in the trust deed? For example, if the trust does not have all the require borrowing powers etc?
Very powerful indeed – What you have described is exactly my situation.
I have IP's and shares as well as a PPOR (overall gearing about 50%), so if I can divert all the income from the investments to the PPOR then I can probably pay it off before I'm 30 – That would be massive!
Thanks again for your help – I'll let you know about the ruling I get from the ATO.
How much does it cost to add beneficiaries to a trust later down the track.
I am getting married this year and expect to have kids in the next 1-2 years so it would be good if I could add the kids as beneficiaries when they arrive.
Also, is there any age limit on transferring income to kids?
After reading that, I will be comfortable in allowing the LOC I use to purchase shares to capitalise interest (until it reaches the limit of course).
I will definitely obtain a seperate ruling on setting up a seperate loan though – Seems a bit more risky and may come off as setting up a scheme.
Just ran some numbers on allowing the LOC interest to capitalise vs putting into offset. Should save me between $1500-200 p.a until such time as my offset balance reaches my home loan balance so thanks for the info
The only way I can repay you for you info is by spreading your name amongst my network and directing my NSW clients to you (very small number as I am based in Melb, but even one new customer for you would help so I'll see how I go).
1. Are you suggesting to get an individual tax ruling for the interest capitalising issue, or only the seperate loan to pay the interest issue (or both!?). Just want to find out if you are 100% sure on the interest capitalisation question, or if you think it is best to speak with the ATO for that one too.
2. Could the same thing potentially be done with a PPOR before converting to an IP? ie: Let the interest capitalise against the PPOR loan, and then you would have a higher, deductible loan when you swap over?
That settles what to do with our existing properties… now I just need to work out whether to go with company and trust for future purchases, or keep them in individual names!
So let me use another example here just to clarify:
If I take a $100,000 LOC and purchase $50,000 worth of shares, I can let the interest capitalise to the facility and it will be fully deductible? ie: If say $3500 of interest is charged to that facility for the financial year, I can claim on the full amount?
At the moment I have my investment facility interest come directly out of my Offset account, but if capitalised interest can be deducted then I will let it accrue to the investment facility and keep more cash in my offset (which is against non deductible debt).
Am I off the mark here? I was told previously that capitalised interest was not deductible so just want to make sure.
I'm in the 38c tax bracket for the upcoming year, but have a full understanding of the implications of -ve vs +ve gearing.
The consideration was mainly that I would rather use any additional cash as equity into the new PPOR purchase (via an offset account), rather than paying off the current PPOR which will become an IP and have deductible interest.
In an ideal world, i'd have no debt and would be happy to pay tax on all the passive income, but i'll grin and bare a few more years of employment before I start getting too excited about that just yet.
With regards to the deductibility of the interest, I was kind of hoping there might be a way to restructure the loan to make the principal I have already paid deductible once the property becomes an IP, but it would appear not!
The two other links you posted explained it perfectly – Thanks again!
A couple of queries about your NAB loan just to make sure that the Partner and/or associate won't charge any fees for the changeover.
Is the loan part of a NAB Choice package? If so, no fees!
How long has the loan been in place? Generally, NAB has an early exit fee for the first 4 years, but they will generally only charge this if you are paying out the loan (not simply changing to another product.
If you look at the long term interest rate figures, rates are actually quite low at the moment.
As Terry pointed out, your restricting factor is likely to get much worse in the near future. Majority of estimates are predicting 0.75 – 1.0% RBA cash rate rises next year… and as we have seen from Westpac, CBA and ANZ, it is possible the banks will raise rates above the RBA increases.
Especially given the unemployment data that came out earlier in the week, 2 or 3 quarter rate rises may now come in the first half of 2010.
I just turned 26 and I purchased my first property at 22 – I now have 3 properties and about 100k in shares.
I think the common theme coming through from everyone elses comments is that you hopefully won't need to sell any investment properties in 4 years to purchase a house.
The next thing I would say is that whilst you need to plan for the future, don't be set on purchasing your PPOR at 25 – I own a PPOR which is geared to about 50%, however this has slowed my investing plans. I have plenty of equity available in my properties, but paying off your own, non-deductible mortgage makes it harder to acquire more IP's because your home makes no income!
The last piece of advice I would give you is to purchase a 2 bedroom place rather than a 1BR. I know how expensive property will be in Carlton, but the 2BR opens you up to such a wider rental market, and gives you some more options with future improvements.
I was/am lucky enough to have a pretty good mentor at your age, and consequently I am now in a strong position financially for my age. Feel free to post more questions in the forums and I will try to assist, or send me a private message if you would like me to go into more detail about any posts I make.
The 20% deposit will work well, as 80% is the maximum you can borrow without having to pay LMI.
Make sure you get a loan that has an offset account attached and keep the additional funds there (This effectively works the same as paying the money off the loan, except it is easier to access and more convenient).
If you have any personal debts (which are non-tax deductible), then borrow the full 80% and pay any additional funds (except for the buffer you want) off the non-tax deductible loan.