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You can find a JV to finance part of the development project.
Try some creative techniques such as vendor financing when selling to increase cash flow. This would ease the pressure off a negatively geared property and allow you to hold it longer.
I’m sure one of the finance brokers from this forum may be able to offer some other finance solutions. I’m just offering the types of things we do, both my husband and I dont have jobs [biggrin] (and loving it!!!)
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http://www.adprop.com.auI understand what RK is saying about your PROR being a liability as he defines an asset as something that makes money. Makes alot of sense!
I also like to view your PROP as an asset in because you can access the equity to buy investment properties that make money!!!
There is nothing wrong with renting, many investors do it! The great thing about the Adelaide CBD at the moment is that you can rent a house for alot less than what it would cost in repayments to pay off a mortgage had you purchased the house [biggrin]
Great for tenants!
Bad for investors (too negatively geared!!)all the best Nate [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auHi James,
I tend to agree with everyone else (how unique of me [biggrin]).
We were faced with a similar problem years ago, we identified the most negatively geared of our propertiies and increased the cash flow using vendor financing techniques and multi tenancies.Actually one of our cash flow solutions has been publised in Sep API page 34 [biggrin]
Using creative techniques rather than just straight selling has the benefit of not having to take a possible loss on a property. Because you are financing the property the same price is higher! With multi-tenancies, there is no sales price, just cash flow!!!
The extra cash flow can then be used to fund your other properties giving you some breathing space while at the same time allowing you to enjoy capital appreciation in other properties.
I can certainly help you set up these creative techniques if you are in SA, feel free to contact me any time [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auI really don’t like giving this sort of advice because I’m not qualified [biggrin]
But, in our own portfolio, we buy properties inside a discretionary trust (one property per trust) and each trust has a corporate trustee.
It’s different for everybody but I hope this helps [biggrin][biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auHi Peachy,
We have bought a few in recent times and aim for 20% under the median for the area.
Expect to get many of them knocked back, but remember that if it was easy everyone would be doing it [biggrin]Investment Property Management
http://www.adprop.com.auThat’s just amazing!
I often wonder who sits there and makes up these rules and what logic they base it on [blink]
It just makes no sense to the commone person!!!!
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http://www.adprop.com.auHi Wealth,
I have used call options to buy and sell properties and use them combined with a lease to increase cash flow for clients that we manage properties for.
I don’t like to combine them with a put option because I like the buyer to have the discretion of buying or not. A put option will force the purchaser to buy so would limit our negotiations for a higher puchase price!!I have also purchased properties by taking out a call option. Most investors understand the concept of trading time value for money and we usually offer a higher than asking price for the “right” to buy. Again, put opions will not benefit the negotiation.
How do you use them?
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http://www.adprop.com.auI agree with Nigel, a balanced potfolio is best. [biggrin]
I don’t like buying in remote areas, if there is no capital appreciation you are exposed to the risk of debt. I like manufactured cash flow in good growth properties using creative strategies such as lease options.
Extra cash flow is then used to fund negative cash flow in higher growth properties
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http://www.adprop.com.auIf you find a property manager who can successfully manage your property (that includes alot more than just finding a tenant and signing a lease), then you can use your free time to be looking for the next property deal rather than managing existing properties.
That’s the whole idea, leveraging from other peoples time [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auNot sure what state you are in, but we do lease options in SA [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auAgents can legally charge ALOT more than 7.45%!
Cheaper property managers are not always the most cost effective!!!!
Property managers who are also investors can offer what you are talking about [biggrin]
The trick is to find a property manager who has their own property portfolio and can think outside the square with regards to maximising returns on investments.
What do you mean by non-real estate company? If you are dealing with other peoples money ie collecting rent, you need a trust account that is regulated and audited every year. It is illegal to hold money on behalf of other people in your own bank account.
To open up a trust account and be able to act on behalf of vendors for property transactions including property management, you need either a real estate license or a law degree
sorry but that’s just the law [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auLove to read your book Alex, [biggrin]
my email is [email protected]
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http://www.adprop.com.auThey only started several weeks ago and they said that they don’t get that many clicks. Vendor financing is a new age concept, give it time it will catch on [biggrin]
and so will the web site [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auWhat is a good investment for one person may be total devistation for someone else.
Being a good investment because it is always rented are words of Non-investors! Something can be “always rented” and still losing money!!!
What is your investing style, capital growth? cash flow? Property trading? ….
No one can answer that question buy you [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auPS, the Adelaide group is not age-specific [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auDon’t forget we already have an investor’s network group in Adelaide. [biggrin]
Next meeting is September 12
Please email me if you are interested in joining.
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http://www.adprop.com.auGreat to see that there is something for private landlords. [biggrin]
Just keep in mind though that most properties are managed by property managers who would probably prefer to use the more established tenant default databases such as TICA, so even though tenants could be in default, it does not mean that they will be listed on the landlrord site!
Do you know if it allows you to list tenants who have trashed properties but where the damage was covered by the bond??
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http://www.adprop.com.auI agree, he has always been a hero for me [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auYes, the property is negatively geard but the return is above the average for SA (anything above 5% is high for SA).
What area is it in and how are you basing your growth calculations?
Buying positive cash flow properties is not the ONLY way to invest, infact, if there has been no growth in the area, you are left exposed to debt with no incease in equity to offset it, it is high risk!!
Negatively geared properties are also higher risk because sooner or later (5 properties for most people) will leave you with servicability problems when it comes to finance, that means slow growth in your portfolio and you are at the mercy of capital appreciation.
Factoring in depreciation and tax benefits may increase your returns, its a method used by some investors (not me personally [biggrin]) but it may suit your investment style.
In SA, you could consider some creative investing techniques such as offering it back for sale on vendor financing as a method to increase cash flow that you can use to service other properties, allows your portfolio to grow at a faster rate than negative gearing, while not leaving you exposed to dept as in buying properties just for positive cash flow.
Hope I haven’t confused people with all the jargon, I can understand what I’m talking about [biggrin]
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http://www.adprop.com.auWe haven’t had too much success with letter drops either, most people are so disensitised to advertising, it takes several repeats to get any kind of response.
We’ve had a 2% success out of 10,000 letter drops done over several months. [biggrin]
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