I’d love to message/email you if possible, am just considering a burnt out reno deal right now and would be keen to hear from you if you think it was all worth it, and any warnings!! Your profile doesn’t accept messages, so I’m hoping I can post in here and you may still be around!! my email is: wisepearl (at) gmail.com
Congratulations on doing some research and trying to educate yourself before receiving your inheritance money. Something you didn’t mention in your post is what you current living conditions are and if you have any existing debt on your house where you live (referred on here as PPOR – principal property of residence).
A priority could be for you to pay down any non-deductible personal debt, such as car loan, home loan, personal loans or credit card. The $230k on your IP would be tax deductible and can be offset against any rental income. While its a great idea to pay back debt, depending on the stage in life where you’re at you may be better off to leverage this money to purchase additional properties.
Pay close attention to Terry’s advice, he’s a regular giver of excellent advice on here and his advice should be considered. You don’t want to receive this generous inheritance and then lose a stack of it to the taxman or down the road in legal issues.
If your own home is fully paid off, then if I was in your situation I would use the money to reduce but not eliminate the debt on the IP (say a 50% LVR rather than 80%, or even lower) and use remaining to purchase additional property at a low LVR, thus making them cashflow positive. But I’m no expert!
Go and speak with a financial planner and solicitor or accountant knowledgable in property.
i actually had an excellent quote for replacement of whole kitchen so will be going ahead with that. i had also read about what u mentioned, apparently u need to be careful if replacing benchtop and leaving cupboards, could possibly be gaps not sealed perfectly and water seepage can damage the cupboards. plus there’s also the invisible damage that may already be there. better to just replace.
i did mine on e-tax and used the depreciation schedule. what bit are you stuck on?
if your depreciation schedule is anything like mine, you’ll end up with two nice numbers. one is what you claim on capital depreciation, ie the building. and the other is on plant and other assets. Put the amount you can claim back on the building into the box labelled R on the rental expenses spreadsheet, called capital works or something. Then put the plant/assets into box I “capital allowances”. but this only works if you are only claiming the amounts exactly as labelled on the depreciation schedule. if you need to open the depreciation worksheet you must enter everything manually. you may do this if you have added something to depreciate since the schedule (eg renovating/painting or new asset).
from how you described the house, it sounds as if the lower level room would be either a guest room or perhaps a teenager’s retreat. I doubt either of these categories would be needing a bath… roomy shower + toilet makes more sense.
Hi Emma, Saw your post in 2009 about sharing your time for learning DIY renovating, how did you go? I am in the same position now with 2 weeks of free time in Perth and being an industrial sparky willing to work hard to learn, could you reccomend anyone? Cheers, Andrew
Hi Gumtree,
Unfortunately that post got me nowhere since then bought another IP but haven’t renovated. Am actually starting a reno on IP #1 on 3rd September. Planning to do strip out DIY over the weekend, and got tradies lined up to do plumbing, tiling, bathroom, flooring, plus got a sparky sorted for moving some light fittings.
Planning to meet tradies on site each morning and observe what I can to absorb some info!
Let me know if you want to help us strip out and meet on site to catch up with any of the tradies, i’m sure we can arrange it.
If the layout is functional & cupboards sound, either replace like for like or change the doors & handles only.
How about the benchtop?
it is functional, the only thing lacking is a proper pantry space! leaning towards just replacing doors + shiny new handles, cheaper and faster. cuboards are indeed sound, and in quite good condition, just some elbow grease to fix a couple stains.
benchtop is ugly mustard yellow colour and showing some chipping around the edge. will most likely replace completely rather than cover it, but that too will come down to cost and advice.
Jamie, thanks for that link, i’ve seen your canberra reno house pics a few times, looks good. i noticed you replaced doors rather than repaint. what was your reason? cost and time effective that way? or the previous doors just not in good enough condition?
Right, I think if you are targeting executive market then you should do the job properly and replace the cupboards.
hehe i thought u might say that
will see what the kitchen guy says when i meet him on monday, and will see what the difference in total cost would be. could be at the end of the day my reno budget determines my actions, not me! ideally i'll have the funds to do it all, but of course there's other more priorty actions and the budget will only stretch so far. so i may be left with the choice of just sprucing up what i have.
just for extra info – this is a property i already own, and its an inner city apartment which i'm hoping to rent to executive market. competing with many newly built large complexes, so finishes should be to a high standard.
catalyst – u mention u paid for the undercoat, but what was on top of that for the final finish? did you DIY the doors?
Thanks for the post. Your post made sense and I have asked renovating for profit for a reply. I have of course removed your name from the e-mail. I am very interested to see what response I get. I hope I have not made a bad financial decision by investing in the programme. I am still going to push ahead with it and to see where it takes me.
I've heard from a few graduates of her course that it is very worthwhile, and as mentioned I was impressed by all other aspects of her presentation. Don't feel nervous, I'm sure you have not made a bad decision in her programme. She is well regarded and her course inclusions do seem very thorough.
I guess I just sympathise with an earlier poster, to work hard, spend less, save hard and do it that way. If what Cherie suggests can actually happen, then that's great. I can imagine I could approach a few limited people I have met through work, or family/friends with some possible deals, but in reality if a deal is that good I'd be keen to find a way to finance it myself or JV. Her suggestion of spotters fees just concerns me in terms of legality and practicality.
In her Perth presentation, she mentioned she has a graduate in Sydney or Melbourne who is currently earning $4000-6000 per week with spotters fees and using this to build up a cash base. If she makes a claim such as this, perhaps she is prepare to back it up and give you the contact details of her graduate? You never know if you don't ask!
Do make sure you post the reply on her pls, very interested to read more on this topic from cherie.
I liked a much earlier comment about a term deposit whilst researching, and Terry's multiple comments about seeing the right professionals.
I think you're in such a fantastic position having that lump-sum cash, so take the time to educate yourself on how to most successfully invest your money to achieve your personal goals. If the money is not already sitting in a high interest account, the first thing I would do is deposit the lot into perhaps a 6 month term deposit at a great interest rate. Then book yourself in with a good financial planner, and accountant. Start talking to the experts (and yes it will cost you money, but its all worthwhile for the tailored, professional advice) and work on a plan that suits your goals. Might as well have your money earning top interest while you're preparing your path for investment. Also it does appear that the majority of property markets are reasonably flat at the moment, so you wont be missing out on large capital gains over a 6 month period.
Also a popular theme mentioned in investing books is about delayed gratification and if you can live frugally for a while, you can reap the benefits later. so perhaps consider renting/sharing and focussing on investments for now… FHOG benefits vary from state to state, and also in some states if you buy just for IP this doesn't mean you are ineligible for FHOG for a PPOR in the future.
But I'd pay a lot of attention to Terry's posts and not spend a cent of your income without some professional advice, and getting it set up in the right structures from day 1.
I recently went to Cherie Barber’s seminar in Perth, and I’m aware she promotes the use of spotters fee to build up cash for investing. She mentions her graduates receive thousands of dollars per fee, and do this by creating a business proposal outlining all the due diligence and research done on a property to a potential buyer and then asking for a fee shoudl they buy.
When she spoke about this, I was concerned by it as I did wonder what buyer would give a fee to a property novice for suggesting a purchase. If they are so time-poor they are happy to pay for the research, why buy a report from an unregistered beginner, rather than pay for the service of a qualified, experienced buyers agent, who will go in and negotiate on their behalf?
Just imagine for a second that you are a wealthy time-poor individual, lets say a doctor, who is looking to invest around $700k. Who would you pay for their assistance, someone who gives them a folder full of figures but owns no property themselves and has a few weeks/months of “experience” or would you go to a buyers agent, often with a professional office, sit down and discuss what you’re looking for and send them out to purchase based on your needs.
Looking forward to seeing Renovate for Profit’s response posted on here. For the record, I thoroughly enjoyed Cherie’s presentation and found all other aspects of the talk very professional, engaging, and worthwhile. This was the only thing that didn’t quite gel with me.
I find it interested you commented “delayed settlement” of 30 days. I would say 30 days would be a standard settlement time, but delayed could be 3-4 months. If you put offer on both, you can settle one in 30 days and the other in four months, gives you time to seek additional funding… is the second property leased? could it be easier dealing with the vacant one first and renovating that and getting a revalue done?
i believe banks also vary with how soon they will allow a revaluation done on a property, particularly if it is only minor cosmetic renos. So ask when speaking to your broker or direct to the bank what their policy is on second valuations done after renos. you don’t want to get stuck and find they will refuse a revaluation until 6 months has passed.
Take photos of anything you feel goes against your strata by-laws. Present them to the strata manager.
At our recent AGM of council of owners, one owner presented photos showing no less than four apartments had erected structures or done something contrary to the strata rules. With photographic action it is easier, and potentially less emotional, to make a difference. Take photos of everything, and get your hands on your copy of the strata rules so you can identify which clauses are broken.
do you know if it is the owner living there or tenants? if its tenants, see if you can find out the property manager details and notify them.
Just to give you some more info Wade… What Richard said is entirely correct, but to put it into an example to simplify matters for you:
Let's say hypothetically you own a house worth $400,000 and currently have a mortgage owing on it of $200,000.
This means at this point in time you have equity of $200k in this house.
Let's say you decide to access that equity, and withdraw $100,000 as a line of credit to purchase another property.
Now you owe $300k on a $400k property.
Fast-forward 3 years down the track, and let's say for argument's sake your house is now worth $500,000, and because you've made a few additional repayments your mortgage is $280,000. Now you have a further $220,000 equity in this house you may decide to access.
The banks will have a limit as to how much equity you can withdraw, perhaps up to 80% of the value of the house, or maybe more – depends on many factors. However with time, your property value should continue to rise and as it does you can continue to release the equity which has been growing.